D&D 5E (2014) I believe the Greyhawk Campaign setting was a missed opportunity for Wizards of the Coast.

[HobbitFan]

It's sad that one of the oldest settings has seen the least amount of "love" and good development.

 

[I'm A Banana]

Greyhawk has been an icon associated with D&D for many years now. A lot of the deities and spell names owe Greyhawk. I believe Wizards had the perfect opportunity to use Greyhawk instead of the Forgotten Realms because the setting has the perfect combination of lore in specific areas while most other areas have none. You can put almost anything into Greyhawk and it would fit because of how generic the world is. Forgotten Realms is not good for this because of the vast amounts of continuous lore that is constant. You can't really have ground breaking events happen unless it follows specific lore. If you aren't careful, you could end up with an event that actually makes no sense. Greyhawk is better suited for this and I just can't fathom why they didn't use this setting as the core. Make the setting popular if that's the problem.

I just don't want to see Forgotten Realms be the catch all for everything while there is a world already out there that is better suited.

You're not thinking with the brand.

FR has name recognition. People know what FR is. People buy the books and games based in FR *because* it's FR. FR has D&D novel celebrities.

So FR = D&D, at least at launch, and with its most prominent adventures.

Greyhawk is well-loved, but it is no FR. Its time may come. I'm sure they're paying attention to how much demand is actually out there for it, compared to their other settings.

There are stories worth telling in Greyhawk, but Drizz't and Elminster pay the paychecks up in Renton. Of *course* they're going to lead the pack.

From where I'm sitting, that's OK. The adventures aren't ruining FR, they're just set there by default (when they could be set elsewhere). When Greyhawk comes ambling along, it won't have to bear the weight that FR has to bear. Setting ToEE in FR might help pay for a GH setting down the road.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Setting ToEE in FR might help pay for a GH setting down the road.

Were not even having this. We are having an adventure that involves the Elemental Princes. Which has been built up for more then a year by the D&D team.

 

[catenwolde]

Kids and their newfangled Greyhawk - everybody knows that Mystara is where the real action is!

 

[Sailor Moon]

You're not thinking with the brand.

FR has name recognition. People know what FR is. People buy the books and games based in FR *because* it's FR. FR has D&D novel celebrities.

So FR = D&D, at least at launch, and with its most prominent adventures.

Greyhawk is well-loved, but it is no FR. Its time may come. I'm sure they're paying attention to how much demand is actually out there for it, compared to their other settings.

There are stories worth telling in Greyhawk, but Drizz't and Elminster pay the paychecks up in Renton. Of *course* they're going to lead the pack.

From where I'm sitting, that's OK. The adventures aren't ruining FR, they're just set there by default (when they could be set elsewhere). When Greyhawk comes ambling along, it won't have to bear the weight that FR has to bear. Setting ToEE in FR might help pay for a GH setting down the road.

So why not let the designers focus on Greyhawk as the default setting and let Ed Greenwood and his crew focus on doing Forgotten Realms? I don't have to think about the brand in this case because I'm sure most people who bought Hoard of the Dragon Queen, would have done so no matter what world you have it in.

You have can have both settings working side by side. Older Forgotten Realms is what's popular, not the new stuff. Brand recognition is only good for those who liked the new direction and I'm afraid it weren't many.

 

[Henrix]

Of course they have to go with FR. They have to get it going again to sell their books. It used to be an important part but hs plummeted with all the change they've brought.

I don't think they're going about it the right way, though.

But concentrating all fans to like the books, as well as the tabletop and computer games, would be good for them.

They have lost me, however. I waa never a FR fan, but found the 3e realms ok. The repeated cataclysms crushed that.

Kids and their newfangled Greyhawk - everybody knows that Mystara is where the real action is!

Newfangled? You jest, certainly?

 

[RichGreen]

I'm still hopeful we might yet see setting books for Greyhawk and other classic settings like Spelljammer. Just not in 2015.

 

[ExploderWizard]

I know people who still never touched 2nd edition who game in Greyhawk or Forgotten Realms, but I do keep hearing this. What is this old-school feel people talk about?

Its a lot like pron. You know it when you see it, and if you're not familiar with it, then don't worry about it.

 

[Eminence_Grise]

I'm a big fan of almost any of the D&D settings that I'm aware of : Mystara, Ravenloft, Eberron, Birthright and Dark Sun. For some reason, I never liked the Forgotten Realms. I always thought there was too much lore to ramp up.

Sadly, I never got to know much of Greyhawk. What books / old box set would you suggest as an introduction?

 

[Sailor Moon]

I'm a big fan of almost any of the D&D settings that I'm aware of : Mystara, Ravenloft, Eberron, Birthright and Dark Sun. For some reason, I never liked the Forgotten Realms. I always thought there was too much lore to ramp up.

Sadly, I never got to know much of Greyhawk. What books / old box set would you suggest as an introduction?

The old World of Greyhawk boxset and the Greyhawk Adventures hardback (1st edition) are good places to start.