D&D 5E A Board Game style Release Schedule

[Mistwell]

A couple things:

2. I don't think I would count the playtest adventures as 5E material....

Why not? I am using them with 5e, lots of other people here at EW say they are also using them with 5e, they were made with this game in mind baring the expected relatively minor changes made in the final rules, they're professionally done and still sold on the 5e page at Wizards.com, and people talking about the first three months of Pathfinder have been citing all the transitional material produced during those months as part of Pathfinder support for those three months even though that transitional material is likewise based on the 3.5e rules as opposed to the PF rules. This all seems right in line with "stuff you'd consider when deciding if the release schedule is too slow or not".

 

[Kramodlog]

Why not? I am using them with 5e, lots of other people here at EW say they are also using them with 5e,

A lot of people use adventures from previous editions with 5e's rules. By your logic it would mean they are 5e adventures too. If you need to convert an adventure to use it, it obviously is not part of that edition.

 

[Mistwell]

A lot of people use adventures from previous editions with 5e's rules. By your logic it would mean they are 5e adventures too. If you need to convert an adventure to use it, it obviously is not part of that edition.

It's not for another edition. They are for 5e, just with some minor tweaks to the rules (not the major issues you get with an actual prior edition). You don't need to "convert" them like you'd need to convert them from a prior edition. It's about equivalent to the transitional adventures Paizo was publishing for Pathfinder before all the Pathfinder rules had come out and just after. Lots of people in this very thread have claimed those adventures were part of the first 90 days support for Pathfinder, but all of a sudden equivalent WOTC adventures don't count?

I see an awful lot of people trying to define away any criticism of their argument as "doesn't count" for fairly trivial and arbitrary reasons. And I count the "playtest professionally published adventures which are still for sale" being dismissed as a trivial and arbitrary dismissal.

 

[HobbitFan]

Mistwell: You have said numerous times in this thread that you count 5E as being out 3 months. It seems disingenious to me to have this cutoff yet also include playtest material from years before 5E's launch.

You can't have it both ways.

edit: Not trying to snipe at you here. Just pointing out what looks to me like an inconsistancy.

 

[Zardnaar]

Seems clear we are talking about wotc stuff. The online pdfs of mass combat and eberron stuff are only a dozen pages or so. Its usable stuff like adventures and splats which would be nice to have. Paizosaps r monthly dnd used to have dungeon.

Already resorted to ogl stuff.

 

[Mistwell]

Mistwell: You have said numerous times in this thread that you count 5E as being out 3 months. It seems disingenious to me to have this cutoff yet also include playtest material from years before 5E's launch.

The question was "how much support do you have for 5e, right now at the 3 month mark". How is it disingenuous to count all the stuff available at this point?

You can't have it both ways.

I am not. You want to count stuff out for 3e at the 3 month mark which came out a year before that time, go ahead. You're conflating "out for 3 months" with "what's available at that time".

edit: Not trying to snipe at you here. Just pointing out what looks to me like an inconsistancy.

When you use the word disingenuous, you're sniping. I don't see how someone would use that negative accusation otherwise. It's not like you asked for a clarification.

 

[HobbitFan]

The question was "how much support do you have for 5e, right now at the 3 month mark". How is it disingenuous to count all the stuff available at this point?



I am not. You want to count stuff out for 3e at the 3 month mark which came out a year before that time, go ahead. You're conflating "out for 3 months" with "what's available at that time".



When you use the word disingenuous, you're sniping. I don't see how someone would use that negative accusation otherwise. It's not like you asked for a clarification.

My apologies then sir, I must have misunderstood. I didn't get the impression that anyone in the thread previous was talking about 5E support as including current stuff plus playtest materials. Can you point me to posts in the thread where other people were?


I apologize for the use of the term disingenious. I should have asked you for clarification on your point and when i edited my post removed use of the perjorative.
Instead of jumping to a conclusion and accusing you of xyz I should have asked are you indeed meaning to say that.
My fault. I take responsibility for that.

 

[Mistwell]

Seems clear we are talking about wotc stuff.

Yes, it's very clear that's all you want to talk about. What's not clear is why. If what matters to you is having stuff to play with, it should not matter if it is from WOTC or not. The reasons given by you and others for making that distinction are pretty weak. To know if a release schedule is slow or not, you have to know what people need. To know what people need, you have to address the entire context of what people have - not just what WOTC puts out. If people have access to 64 adventures right now at the 3 month mark, it's hardly fair to call an adventure release schedule too slow. So, WHY are you only willing to talk about WOTC stuff? What's the justification for limiting discussion to that, other than to limit discussion?

The online pdfs of mass combat and eberron stuff are only a dozen pages or so. Its usable stuff like adventures and splats which would be nice to have.

Are the articles usable? I think they are, many others do as well, how is not not usable?

 

[Mistwell]

My apologies then sir, I must have misunderstood. I didn't get the impression that anyone in the thread previous was talking about 5E support as including current stuff plus playtest materials. Can you point me to posts in the thread where other people were?

Of course they were not. It's why I said "You should consider it, as it's stuff you can play with right now, which is what you want".

I apologize for the use of the term disingenious. I should have asked you for clarification on your point and when i edited my post removed use of the perjorative.
Instead of jumping to a conclusion and accusing you of xyz I should have asked are you indeed meaning to say that.
My fault. I take responsibility for that.

Thanks for that.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yes, it's very clear that's all you want to talk about. What's not clear is why. If what matters to you is having stuff to play with, it should not matter if it is from WOTC or not. The reasons given by you and others for making that distinction are pretty weak. To know if a release schedule is slow or not, you have to know what people need. To know what people need, you have to address the entire context of what people have - not just what WOTC puts out. If people have access to 64 adventures right now at the 3 month mark, it's hardly fair to call an adventure release schedule too slow. So, WHY are you only willing to talk about WOTC stuff? What's the justification for limiting discussion to that, other than to limit discussion?



Are the articles usable? I think they are, many others do as well, how is not not usable?

Because the OP is about WoTC releases not OGL ones perhaps? Feel free to start a topic about OGL stuff as well as I might have to follow up on some of the products you listed.

Frog God/Necromancer games would be my 1st stop for OGL stuff. Quests of Doom seems decent enough and I have a cuiple of great adventures I want to try out. Counting them as 19 products is a bit iffy though as 12 and 6 of them are in one book and they are quite short adventures generally.