Re-watching the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe

Staffan

Legend
If I recall correctly, I heard something about Sif appearing in an episode of Agents of Shield. Imagine Thor's reaction if she saw Coulson and told Thor he was alive.
He actually asks her not to tell Thor that he's still alive, because he wants to tell Thor himself at some later point.
 

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Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
I actually didn't mind Ang Lees Hulk, sure the hulk poodles were absolutely stupid, the cgi was cartoonish and the Absorbing man villain was badly realised, but as an origin story and a plot of Monster vs Military it did have great potential. I do prefer it to the Hulk vs Abomination or the Thor vs Destroyer movies. Thor 2 was better but still second tier as compared to IM or Cap movies.

Ironman 1 was awesome and 3 was great, and I agree RDJr's portrayal of Stark is epic. IM 2 was a bit second rate but still comic book enough to be fun.
I was actually a bit iffy about Captain America 1 but was pleasantly surprised, both by the presentation of the propaganda montage and the development of WW2 espionage movie (I'd love to see a Howling Commandos pic comparable to Inglorious Basterds), Cap 2 continued the espionage theme and imho was probably the best of all of the movies.
Note too than on the TV side agent Carter is also pretty awesome.
I got bored with Agents of Sheild during season 1 and didn't catch up again until after Daisy received her gift. I'd like to see how that affects the Movieverse.

Avengers was awesome ensemble peice even if Hawkeye got shortshift, at least he got better treatment in Ultron.
 

Mercurius

Legend
No. I like comic book movies just fine, as I do many genres of movie. The ones I called awful were awful.

If you want to gauge my tastes over the years, although this is very tangential to the thread: other awful comic book movies include Superman 3, 4, 5; Catwoman; the Schumacher Batman flicks; Ghost Rider; Green Lantern; The Punisher (entire series), Supergirl.

Great comic book movies include (as listed above) Iron Man 1, The Avengers, Captain America: The Winter Soldier; plus Superman 1 and 2; Spidey 1; the Nolan Batman trilogy, and Tim Burton's two Batflicks; X-Men First Class. I also felt Watchmen was good. Hellboy was pretty good (though the sequel was not).

I pretty much agree with both lists, although would add X-Men 1 and 2 and Days of Future Past to the latter list. I also think Nolan's films are overrated, or at least too overly grimdark for my tastes - no humor, no fun, just endless horrible things. I also agree with MechaPilot that the Thomas Jane Punisher was decent.

There was a Superman 5? Or do you mean Superman Returns? I thought it was decent enough, although not great.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I also think Nolan's films are overrated, or at least too overly grimdark for my tastes - no humor, no fun, just endless horrible things.

I like tons of non-comedic movies and TV shows. A variety in styles is a positive to me. I'm also a big fan of gangster flicks and serious dramas. My enjoyment of movies largely comes from their variety. I enjoy both Doctor Who and The Sopranos. I enjoyed Interstellar and 2001 and Jurassic Park. I love Alien and Star Wars. There's room for everything! :)
 

Mercurius

Legend
I like tons of non-comedic movies and TV shows. A variety in styles is a positive to me. I'm also a big fan of gangster flicks and serious dramas. My enjoyment of movies largely comes from their variety. I enjoy both Doctor Who and The Sopranos. I enjoyed Interstellar and 2001 and Jurassic Park. I love Alien and Star Wars. There's room for everything! :)

I hear and agree with you. I just prefer movies that I don't feel like my soul has been sucked out of me and I'm left a husk of a person...that's pretty much how the Nolan films felt, although not to the degree of, say, Requiem for a Dream. There was none of the fun that make superhero movies so fun. Don't get me wrong, I still liked them, but I preferred the Burton films. For me it would be Burton first, then Nolan, then Schumacher a distant third.
 

MechaPilot

Explorer
I hear and agree with you. I just prefer movies that I don't feel like my soul has been sucked out of me and I'm left a husk of a person...that's pretty much how the Nolan films felt, although not to the degree of, say, Requiem for a Dream. There was none of the fun that make superhero movies so fun. Don't get me wrong, I still liked them, but I preferred the Burton films. For me it would be Burton first, then Nolan, then Schumacher a distant third.

I know the feeling that you're talking about, but I never had that feeling from the Nolan Batman films. Reservoir Dogs? Certainly. Just not from any superhero film.
 

I get their execution so far. I do. However, AoS is part of the MCU regardless of what Wedon's feelings about it were or are. The fact that there hasn't been any influence on the films by events in the show doesn't mean that there can't be. it probably just means that Disney recognizes the need to give the movie writers greater free reign than the TV writers (likely because movies are a much greater investment of capital).
The timing is likely tricky.
They're filming Captain America: Civil War right now (likely finished and into post-production) while also filming the first half of Agents of SHIELD season 3. But most of AoS will all air before Cap 3, and they won't write and film the last half of the season until this fall/winter. So it can't influence the movie, as the movie releases after but was filmed first. Anything in the series will be written to be reactive.

That said, I'm still hoping inhumans/enhanced created during the SHIELD episodes will have an effect on the cinematic universe.
 

delericho

Legend
Actually, there is a separation between the TV and Movie MCU universes. A little after Avengers 2 there was an article that suggested Whedon was not happy with Coulson coming back in the TV show and was staying dead as far as the movies are concerned. It is one of the problems with Agents of Shield nothing in the TV show will ever be allowed to effect or influence the movies.

It's not even as simple as that: for Avengers 2, Whedon also decided to ignore Iron Man 3 - note that War Machine appears instead of the Iron Patriot. Plus there's the small matter of Tony deciding to blow up all his suits at the end of IM3...

In any case, when it comes right down to it, I'm not sure it's Whedon's choice - hasn't he left by now anyway?
 

Jhaelen

First Post
And to be honest I thought Ang Lee's Hulk is a bit underrated and a better movie overall, but perhaps not well received because of how dark it was.
Agreed. I really liked it. It represented the Hulk I remembered from the comics way better than the other movies. Reducing him to 'Hulk Smash!' is something that only happened in other comic series, e.g. the Avengers, where he was reduced to a cameo role and his somewhat tragic theme was superseded by good ol' superheroic fun.
 

It's not even as simple as that: for Avengers 2, Whedon also decided to ignore Iron Man 3 - note that War Machine appears instead of the Iron Patriot. Plus there's the small matter of Tony deciding to blow up all his suits at the end of IM3...

In any case, when it comes right down to it, I'm not sure it's Whedon's choice - hasn't he left by now anyway?

Well, Rhodes seemed to want to be War Machine again, and it seemed unlikely Tony wouldn't rebuild any suits.
 

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