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The Chronicles of Narcissist

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Dannyalcatraz

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If there is any truth to what Umbran has suggested in his last 2 posts, I will have to tip my hat to the man with the preternatural combover.
 

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Umbran

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Or that he just wants the publicity for some show or that he *gasp* actually thinks he can win.

The publicity angle is entirely likely. he can screw with the campaign for a while, and then find a reason to drop out before he's actually committed to the general election.

I wonder at thinking he can win. I mean, he can certainly be that egotistical, no problem there. But it is more... why does he *want* to win? As President, he'd have to largely set aside management of his billion-dollar empire during his term(s) - he has a whole lot to lose if he wins. Other than running his mouth off on various topics, his history is *not* one of trying to make the country a better place. He hasn't really tried to influence public policy except as it has directly applied to his own holdings.
 

Ryujin

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If there is any truth to what Umbran has suggested in his last 2 posts, I will have to tip my hat to the man with the preternatural combover.

It's not a comb-over. It's a fin. He's a descendant of an ancient saurian race and the GOP is standing in the way of them retaking the planet for themselves.
 

Kramodlog

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But it is more... why does he *want* to win? As President, he'd have to largely set aside management of his billion-dollar empire during his term(s) - he has a whole lot to lose if he wins.
Are there laws against it or are you counting on his moral compass?

Other than running his mouth off on various topics, his history is *not* one of trying to make the country a better place. He hasn't really tried to influence public policy except as it has directly applied to his own holdings.
It could be that he just thinks he can do a better job than others. As much as I think this is for publicity, I'm not disarding the possibility that he is serious. An old bored egotistical billionaire could think this the election is a challenge and that he would do a better job than those non-billionaire presidents that came before him.

I have many doubts on the conspiracy angle even if Bill Clinton did encourage Trump to run. http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html
 

Dannyalcatraz

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It's not a comb-over. It's a fin. He's a descendant of an ancient saurian race and the GOP is standing in the way of them retaking the planet for themselves.
"The Sleestack resurgence will be YUGE! America will be great again, and all the other countries will respect us, because we'll be making them look like losers."
 

Umbran

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Are there laws against it or are you counting on his moral compass?

There are no laws against it. I am in no way "counting on" his moral compass. I am more pointing out that actually taking the office does not, at least to casual inspection, really seem to be in his best interests. And the majority of his history speak to him generally wanting to serve his own best interests first.

Basically, while running for office is entirely in-character for him, actually taking office seems out of character.
 



Dannyalcatraz

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Well, either abortion is murder or it isn't. The circumstances don't matter.

While I am pro life, I can't agree with this particular rhetoric. Even in standard homicide, we distinguish between whether the killing was accidental or intentional; whether there was a purpose other than homicide (self defense, reckless in attention, etc.). Murder is a specific kind of homicide, requiring specific kinds of intent- every other kind of homicide is defined as "not murder."

IOW, circumstances DO matter, always.

As to the specific case, I confess to being undecided as to what should happen. Even if I don't agree that abortion is appropriate in this case, I also believe that the child in question should be protected and assisted as much as possible post delivery. If that means giving up the newborn for adoption, so be it. If that means a metric crapload of state benefits until that baby reaches 18, so be it.

Because 2 wrongs not make a right: neither the raped child or the child she carries should be punished for the act of the rapist. This one is on society's tab, if nobody else is willing.
 

JRRNeiklot

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Yes, there is a difference between homicide and murder, but unless the mother's life is in danger, the abortion is murder (assuming you agree the fetus is a human being). Abortion is not self defense, nor is it accidental. Therefore, the circumstances do not matter. Either abortion is murder or it isn't a homicide.

I also believe that the child in question should be protected and assisted as much as possible post delivery. If that means giving up the newborn for adoption, so be it.

I agree.
 
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