D&D 5E Refusing To Heal Party Members?

[GameOgre]

Also if I am playing my barb and im in the party with a bunch of dudes in dresses and maybe some that dont want to fight in the front line.....I am not making a line. I will let the badguys do there thing and do mine without hogging the attention.

No healer means no tank. No worries the barb is flexible!

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

This, 100%. I saw the same with the "Unaligned" option in 4e.

In my experience as a DM, 80% of players that play CN are playing it as 'Diet CE'. They want all the 'benefits' of being evil, without having to put it on their character sheet.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

S the title says. I am playing a LG human Paladin (because that is what I expect btw) and the other day I refused to heal a party member. Why? Well here is our current party lineup.

Lvl3
Human Paladin
Goliath Barbarian
Halfling Thief
Half Elf Sorcerer
Tiefling Wizard
Tiefling Warlock

Not a total lack of healing. My Paladins lay on hands ability (all 15 points of it) it the total healing available in the party. I also have the Inspiring Leader feat as well BTW.

I have always had the opinion (well since 3.0) that if you play a Barbarian you should really ask the party healer if its ok to play that class. A lot of players take healing for granted but barbarians require a lot of healing as a general rule and outside of life clerics at low levels healing in inefficient. There is the play how you want aspect of it but if you expect another person to devoted 100% of there resources to keeping your ass alive well that is kind of a big ask. Note everyone else is twinked out for fun stuff as the DM house ruled everyone gets a feat at level 1, variant humans get 2. No one else took a healer or even the healer feat. The Barbarian has the GWF feat, the spellcasters seem to have a lot of spell sniper going around, the thief has the lucky feat.

Now I do not refuse to heal them because I am being a asshat but it is more pragmatic. I give them 1hp for example to stop them bleeding out if reduced to 0hp. Its just that if if I go down no one else has any form of healing to bring me up to conscious again. I have a cure spell prepared as well but that is more of a to heal myself since i have a grand total of 3 spell slots and prefer to use them for other things (smite, bless, and shield of faith).

Now this is more of a situational thing- if I was playing a life cleric healing is not much of a problem for me.

you talk about saving your healing, and not want to spend all your spells on healing... my aswer would be 'well I don't want to spend my HP on the mission either, since I have the highest HD and take 1/2 damage on most attacks, I have done my part... if you want to go on and 'smite' something do it without the rest of the party...

see saved slots and LoH hp are meaningless if we stop adventureing for me to heal... so use SOME of your resources to heal, or we take a long rest...

[MENTION=80342]morris[/MENTION] said it best, but back in 3.5 I had a cleric who told the party "I'm not a healer, I self buff, if you want me to heal you have to do something for me" so me and the party fighter got togather and took an entire 3 combats in a row off... we told him "Sorry gotta do something for us first"

 

[Mouseferatu]

I don't believe playing a cleric or a paladin obligates a player to be "the healer." I've both seen and played clerics who never prepped healing spells because their focus was elsewhere.

But, I do think that's something you need to make clear at the start of the campaign.

 

[GameOgre]

Dude, based on your fellow players and the reactions of half the peeps in this thread, make a new character. Just make sure he has no heals because any heals makes you a healer,PERIOD!

Seriously,just reroll.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Just make sure he has no heals because any heals makes you a healer,PERIOD!

Um, no. By that logic, any melee attack makes you a frontline fighter.

You're a healer if you choose to play your character as a healer. Nothing else does. (Though again, one should discuss such assumptions at the start of the campaign.)

 

[jrowland]

If I was a player in your group, whatever, don't heal. its your character, yadda yadda...but don't be surprised if nobody pulls your ass out of the fire when you need them to. Quid Pro Quo.

 

[Zardnaar]

Notr I do not mind being a heal bot but one of the arcane types needed to be a front liner or something like a light cleric with the healer feat. I was the only one who took aream based feat everyone else took moar damage type feats or at least make me better type feats.

Even if I was a bit more genetous with the healing I would be out after one encounter anyway and then they might start dying which is what I am trying to avoid. I have a grand total of 39 points including spells and that means I'm not having fun by smiting or whatever.

It hasn't been an issue yet as no obe seems to care that much and I only said no once when directly asked for healing. We are starting PotA this week AFAIK and IDK how tough that adventure is.

 

[Saeviomagy]

If it's not an issue, don't come to the forums and whine about it. It sounds like you're looking for problems.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Um, no. By that logic, any melee attack makes you a frontline fighter.

You're a healer if you choose to play your character as a healer. Nothing else does. (Though again, one should discuss such assumptions at the start of the campaign.)

again as long as you are fine with the consaqunces... if my character is at less then 1/4 hp, and you hold on to healing resources for 'later' (notice not don't have healing resources) then when we say "well not going on to day" your slots are wasted anyway...