Gahh!! Wild shape!?

[GrumpyGamer]

I think they did a good job with wild shape and I have not found it disruptive in the games I have played. Polymorph on the other hand is straight up broken. I have no idea how it made it out of the play test without better limits on the CR of the creature the target turns into.

 

[Solandros]

Look at moon circle druid, opens up a lot of more potent wild shape options, dino's, elephants, elementals, all the good stuff.

 

[hejtmane]

A fly has to be worried about attacks from a sparrow. Or a normal sized spider.

It's hardly safe to be a fly.

There was an old lady who swallowed a fly,
I don't know why she swallowed a fly,
Perhaps she'll die.

See very useful in the rights situation

 

[famousringo]

There was an old lady who swallowed a fly,
I don't know why she swallowed a fly,
Perhaps she'll die.

See very useful in the rights situation

Okay, if somebody swallows a Druid in fly form, and that fly suffers 1 hp damage before escaping out a nostril or something, I don't think that little adventure ends well for anybody.

 

[n00b f00]

I suppose that'd be up to gm discretion. But it's not a feel good tale either way.

 

[pming]

Hiya!

Yeah, a fly, being captured and taken into a spiders lair deep inside a crack in the floor could end rather..."graphically" for the druid

Oh, and I still don't get the whole "Polymorph is broken" thing. You keep your personality and alignment...but that's it. Polymorphing into a low-int and/or low-wisdom critter is dangerous (e.g., you poly into a T-rex, Int 2; good luck trying to remember anything specific, or even general, after you come out of it; "What did I see?" ...DM: "I don't know, make an Int check at -4, DC 10"..."Er, 7"...DM: "Well, you remember chewing into the icky tasting monster, and a bunch of two-legs running around, you liked them, and you remember the flashy lights that scared you"..."So I don't remember seeing the wizard fall down the cliff?" ...DM: "Nope, 'fraid not'. ).

^_^

Paul L. Ming

 

[Jaelommiss]

Okay, if somebody swallows a Druid in fly form, and that fly suffers 1 hp damage before escaping out a nostril or something, I don't think that little adventure ends well for anybody.

In a similar vein, a few months ago I was DMing for a druid who deliberately got himself swallowed by a Giant Frog before wildshaping into a Polar Bear...

 

[famousringo]

In a similar vein, a few months ago I was DMing for a druid who deliberately got himself swallowed by a Giant Frog before wildshaping into a Polar Bear...

That's not so bad. The bear form will absorb the physical trauma of being crushed by the swallower's organs before they rupture. Now you just need to hire a wizard to cast Modify Memory and smooth over the emotional scars.

And then, after years of thinking that giant frog had spontaneously exploded in a shower of rainbows and kittens, the Druid casts Greater Restoration on himself to remove some unrelated curse and it all comes back in a rush of claustrophobia and compulsive washing.

 

[FormerlyHemlock]

A fly has to be worried about attacks from a sparrow. Or a normal sized spider.

It's hardly safe to be a fly.

A druid doesn't have to be that worried. If a sparrow or a spider eats him, he just turns back into a druid with full HP. Not a problem unless the sparrow eats him in midair 1000' off the ground.

 

[Azurewraith]

This thread got interesting fast. Stats for a fly i would say 1Hp but an Ac of maybe 20 I say this because if you actually slap a fly in mid air it couldn't care less you actually have to be able crush it so thats vulnerable bludgeon i guess as for speed 160ft seems cool they are crazy fast. You know what lets make this official.

Fly
Tiny Beast
Hp 1 AC 20
Speed fly 180ft
ADV on perception checks disadv on stealth

Vulnerable Bludgeon

Special +30AC against attacks of opportunity


Hey anyone interested in doing some cool art for this and some proof reading for The Complete: Fly?