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D&D 5E Int 8, Wis 8, Cha 18 Sorcerer

MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
It's been over a year since I thought through this, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what my formula does is match a particular INT score with the IQ score that has the same probability of appearing in the population. The extreme IQ scores that appear on my table are 'fantasy' IQ's that are as improbable in the real world as it would be to roll the equivalent INT score with the generation methods given, which is to say practically zero.

I just checked the math, you were actually correct. ("Mostly" correct. The SD of 3d6 is 3.03 not 2.96 n_n) mmm, your chart actually shows higher overall IQs per Int point. No Ralph Wigums in D&D it seems
 

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I just checked the math, you were actually correct. ("Mostly" correct. The SD of 3d6 is 3.03 not 2.96 n_n) mmm, your chart actually shows higher overall IQs per Int point. No Ralph Wigums in D&D it seems

How do you get 3d6? When I run the following through my F# interpreter it gives 2.958 ~= 2.96. Link: https://repl.it/I9Sd/2

Code:
[for x in 1..6 do
  for y in 1..6 do
    for z in 1..6 do
      let dev = 10.5 - (float (x + y + z))
      yield dev * dev]
|> List.average
|> sqrt

That's the definition of standard deviation right there: the square root of (the mean squared deviation from (the expected value, which is 10.5), averaged over all outcomes weighted by probability). 2.96 is correct.
 

transtemporal

Explorer
Come on... dumb as a bag of hammers, has no common sense, talks a big game, supremely confident in his own abilities?

I'm assuming the only reason no one has mentioned you-know-who in 5 pages is that the Int and Wis scores are too high?
 

Come on... dumb as a bag of hammers, has no common sense, talks a big game, supremely confident in his own abilities?

I'm assuming the only reason no one has mentioned you-know-who in 5 pages is that the Int and Wis scores are too high?

On the topic of Voldemort:

Yeah, if I were Minister Fudge I would have asked the Muggles if I could borrow a few of their sniper teams. Potterverse magic is all reactive: "Protego!" doesn't help you if the .50 cal bullet has already exploded your cranium.

(Just ask Harry Dresden.)
 

discosoc

First Post
What would this character be like? I mean 8 is like the opposite of 12 so I would think that someone with a 8 in Int and Wis would just be slightly below average in both those regards.

One way I told the player to think of it is that he is perfectly normal but often slightly wrong. He knows about Dragons and there breath weapons but sometimes gets them mixed up and has issues remembering them according to type.

As far as his 18 Cha goes that's fine. He is simply a very likeable fellow even if his bulbs don't burn the brightest.


What do you guys think? How would you work it?

He doesn't even have to be likable. It just means he's influential or intense in some way. Like, he walks in a room and people are affected by him. That could be anything from Walking Dead's Negan showing up and just commandeering the conversation and pushing everyone past the point of comfort to some Hollywood actress showing up and becoming the center of everyone's attention.

Either could very easily have the stat block you mention.
 



Waterbizkit

Explorer
So this is probably a stupid question, how coincidental, but I'm curious why those of you who like to equate the raw intelligence score to IQ use that score to mark standard deviations and not the modifier? A character with an 8 Int when measured up against one with an 11 is mechanically identical to comparing a 9 v 10. So why not use the +/- modifiers to mark standard deviation instead? I assume it doesn't scale as well, but I was curious.

Personally I don't put that much effort into it either way, I just can't be bothered. But everyone has fun with different aspects of the game, so if that's your thing the more power to you. Anyway, carry on, I just had to ask the one question... I don't have the time at the moment to actually comment on the OP... phone posting from work at the moment.
 

MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
Come on... dumb as a bag of hammers, has no common sense, talks a big game, supremely confident in his own abilities?

I'm assuming the only reason no one has mentioned you-know-who in 5 pages is that the Int and Wis scores are too high?

The first person that popped-up in my mind actually, but the politics ban so no, not going there...
 

MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
How do you get 3d6? When I run the following through my F# interpreter it gives 2.958 ~= 2.96. Link: https://repl.it/I9Sd/2

Code:
[for x in 1..6 do
  for y in 1..6 do
    for z in 1..6 do
      let dev = 10.5 - (float (x + y + z))
      yield dev * dev]
|> List.average
|> sqrt

That's the definition of standard deviation right there: the square root of (the mean squared deviation from (the expected value, which is 10.5), averaged over all outcomes weighted by probability). 2.96 is correct.

In Libre Calc (I don't have Excel and I have principles)
column A = numbers 3-18
Column B = frequencies 1, 3, 6, 10, 15, 21, 25, 27 (and again backwards)
Colum c= first cell "= (A1-10.5)^2*B1/206" and copied all the way to C16
C17= "=Sum(C1:C16)"
C18= "=Sqrt(C17)"
C17 gives 9.1747572816
C18 gives 3.0289861805 ~ 3.03
 

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