D&D 5E Divine smite and ring of spell storing

[intently]

My paladin found a ring of spell storing. Do you think he can use the stored spell slots to power divine smite?

 

[cbwjm]

I would say no, they can only use the ring to cast the individual spells stored inside it not to power other class abilities such as a sorcerer wanting to convert them into sorcery points or a paladin wanting to convert them into a divine smite.

 

[Immoralkickass]

No, Divine Smite is not a spell, so he can't.

 

[seebs]

No, Divine Smite is not a spell, so he can't.

That's not the question. The question isn't "can you use the ring to cast divine smite". Obviously, divine smite isn't a spell.

But if the ring can cast a spell, that looks a lot like it has a spell slot containing a spell. And the non-spell Divine Smite ability allows you to use spell slots...

 

[Immoralkickass]

That's not the question. The question isn't "can you use the ring to cast divine smite". Obviously, divine smite isn't a spell.

But if the ring can cast a spell, that looks a lot like it has a spell slot containing a spell. And the non-spell Divine Smite ability allows you to use spell slots...

You're mistaken on how the ring works. Ring of Spell Storing stores spells, not spell slots. Divine Smite is not a spell, so it cannot be stored. Simple as that.

 

[seebs]

You're mistaken on how the ring works. Ring of Spell Storing stores spells, not spell slots. Divine Smite is not a spell, so it cannot be stored. Simple as that.

The question isn't "can divine smite be stored". It's "can divine smite, which is not a spell at all, but which consumes a spell slot for power, consume a spell that was stored in a ring of spell storing".

I think my answer would be "no" because the ring is not storing a generic-slot, but rather, a specific already-cast spell. But the reason has nothing to do with Divine Smite not being a spell. No one's suggesting that Divine Smite would be stored in the ring.

The point is rather: If I could cast a paladin spell (say, cure wounds) because i have a paladin spell slot, I can use Divine Smite and burn the slot and get +2d8 damage. So if I have a thing that has a stored Cure Wounds, can I use that to get +2d8 damage? I don't think so. But it's not related to whether or not divine smite is a spell.

 

[jaelis]

Th ring says "While wearing this ring, you can cast any spell stored in it." so that is what it lets you do, cast a spell.

Divine smite says "you can expend one spell slot to deal radiant damage to the target." It doesn't say you can convert a spell you cast into a smite.

So the ring doesn't work with smite, it just lets you cast the spell.

 

[CapnZapp]

No, Divine Smite is not a spell, so he can't.

You're mistaken on how the ring works. Ring of Spell Storing stores spells, not spell slots. Divine Smite is not a spell, so it cannot be stored. Simple as that.

Twice you answered it without getting the question right. Right.

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[Warmaster Horus]

I've got a paladin with a Ring of Spell Storing and have never considered it a source of spell slots for powering Divine Smite for the reasons others have given above. It's great for holding utility spells like Protection from Good & Evil, Shield and the like, however.

 

[Immoralkickass]

Twice you answered it without getting the question right. Right.

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