D&D 5E (2024) The Problem with Treantmonk's Hunter's Mark

[Minigiant]

Like, Vengance Paladin or maybe bladesinger seems to be ideal for this, but it mostly seems like a minor power boost at most on either.

Ven Paladin and Bladesinger Wizard to of the top 10 if not top 5 strongest PC builds in 5e.

Nonchalantly boosting them is a nono.

 

[tetrasodium]

3pp's like EN Publishing likewise don't have to deal with past baggage, and community bias. They do have to meet audience obligations because they do come out with product that has to be backwards compatible with WoTC's stuff. However, they have done a very good job listening to their base's feedback by keeping what works in D&D and fixing what doesn't. It's why I like Level Up in a number of ways.

While true, wotc went from respecting that baggage to full "hold mah beer" levels of near binary compatability in service to a vocal subset of online voices going through their first edition shift rather than correcting bad expectations. I've seen fan made video game mods make more significant overhauls to games while only having access to xml files.

Adding to a monolithic sacred cow of sacred code is the way of a minor splatbook like xge or tashas not an edition shift.

 

[FrogReaver]

Ven Paladin and Bladesinger Wizard to of the top 10 if not top 5 strongest PC builds in 5e.

Nonchalantly boosting them is a nono.

It’s such a minor boost though. And in the bladesingers corner it’s not even clear if the tradeoff to pick up hunters mark is actually worth the cost.

Like that HM change doesn’t materially change where those classes rank.

It’s like a millionaire getting a penny richer.

 

[Minigiant]

It’s such a minor boost though. And in the bladesingers corner it’s not even clear if the tradeoff to pick up hunters mark is actually worth the cost.

Like that HM change doesn’t materially change where those classes rank.

It’s like a millionaire getting a penny richer.

It costs them little.

Wizard is not feat starved nor 1st level slot starved at high level. Picking up HM costs them little.

I REALLY hate 5e full caster design.

 

[FrogReaver]

It costs them little.

Wizard is not feat starved nor 1st level slot starved at high level. Picking up HM costs them little.

I REALLY hate 5e full caster design.

What first level feat gives access to hunters mark?

 

[Minigiant]

What first level feat gives access to hunters mark?

Technically Mark of Finding. But that's Eberron only.

But Fey Touched lets you get it at 4th.

Thats the issue. 1st level spells are not treated carefully at all in D&D.