5e Character Guides - why rate all features?

[André Soares]

But I'm starting as a Wizard. Why would I need to look at a rogue guide if my first 6 levels are going to be a wizard?

If you already decided starting with the wizard the guide will be less usefull for you sure. But that's not because the guide is bad, it's purpose is to help you decide what to do. If your mind is already set, what good there is to read the guide?

 

[FrogReaver]

If you already decided starting with the wizard the guide will be less usefull for you sure. But that's not because the guide is bad, it's purpose is to help you decide what to do. If your mind is already set, what good there is to read the guide?

I would be looking at the wizard guide to advice me on when to multiclass to rogue. Surely that's something a guide should be able to do?

 

[André Soares]

I would be looking at the wizard guide to advice me on when to multiclass to rogue. Surely that's something a guide should be able to do?

Shouldn't you look in both guides if you are sure of the multiclass? When I do a multiclass I normally think first on what is that character focus. In your case, is he a caster first or your focus is getting a mean Sneak attack in? In your example, as far as I understand, your focus is the latter, so I'd advise you to look in the Rogue guide to...

After all that was said here I don't understand how one could still argue that the grades to non optional class abilities isn't usefull. There were multiple examples of how people actually used them in usefull ways.

Sure you can still not like them, it's your right to do so, and you can also not find it usefull for what you want to do, but there is still a diference from, "I don't like it", or "It's not usefull to me" to "There is no use for them". If even one person found use to it (there were more than one examples of uses here) there is already proof that the grading is usefull.

 

[FrogReaver]

Shouldn't you look in both guides if you are sure of the multiclass? When I do a multiclass I normally think first on what is that character focus. In your case, is he a caster first or your focus is getting a mean Sneak attack in? In your example, as far as I understand, your focus is the latter, so I'd advise you to look in the Rogue guide to...

After all that was said here I don't understand how one could still argue that the grades to non optional class abilities isn't usefull. There were multiple examples of how people actually used them in usefull ways.

Sure you can still not like them, it's your right to do so, and you can also not find it usefull for what you want to do, but there is still a diference from, "I don't like it", or "It's not usefull to me" to "There is no use for them". If even one person found use to it (there were more than one examples of uses here) there is already proof that the grading is usefull.

Why would I look in the rogue guide if I am playing a wizard and want to multiclass my wizard into something else?

 

[Yunru]

Why would I look in the rogue guide if I am playing a wizard and want to multiclass my wizard into something else?

Because Rogue is what you chose to multiclass into, Euh.

 

[André Soares]

Why would I look in the rogue guide if I am playing a wizard and want to multiclass my wizard into something else?

because your argument was "extra attack makes sneak attack better". If you care about sneak attack, maybe you should read the Rogue's guide...

 

[FrogReaver]

Because Rogue is what you chose to multiclass into, Euh.

Sure, but the Wizard guide should still give me advice on good times to multiclass into rogue. It doesn't have to recreate a whole rogue guide to do that. So why am I checking the rogue guide to determine when a Wizard should multiclass to a rogue? I wouldn't expect the rogue guide to tell me that. Now after I've multiclassed to rogue then checking out the rogue guide is probably a good idea.

 

[FrogReaver]

because your argument was "extra attack makes sneak attack better". If you care about sneak attack, maybe you should read the Rogue's guide...

But I'm not a rogue I'm a wizard

 

[André Soares]

Sure, but the Wizard guide should still give me advice on good times to multiclass into rogue. It doesn't have to recreate a whole rogue guide to do that. So why am I checking the rogue guide to determine when a Wizard should multiclass to a rogue? I wouldn't expect the rogue guide to tell me that. Now after I've multiclassed to rogue then checking out the rogue guide is probably a good idea.

for a wizard it's not a good time to multiclass as rogue. Your rogue gets better with the bladesinger powers, but your rogue powers doesn't make a wizard better in casting spells...

if your goal is to be an bad ass caster, why would you MC in rogue?

your example gives me the idea you want to be mainly a rogue, with a dip in wizard, then read the rogue guide.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

The biggest problem is that more than a few guides rate some abilities totally wrong. Some are honest when they tell you that something is entirely campaign dependend. Some ratings assume too much white box optimizing. Some guides don't know how statistics work.