Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
I cannot even think of a fantasy, non-horror movie that did have evil elves.
Thor? Hellboy?
I cannot even think of a fantasy, non-horror movie that did have evil elves.
No. It was retitled when ESB was released.The first movie has always been Episode IV. I recall at the time Lucas saying he started at IV because it was the episode when all the heroes meet. I'm sure he didn't know exactly what might be in any sequels or prequels but there was certainly a degree of planning here.
Thor? Hellboy?
Having just read that the movie should stay away from elves and dwarves and include tieflings, I suddenly wondered if it could have both elves, dwarves, and a tieflings.
I cannot even think of a fantasy, non-horror movie that did have evil elves. Maybe a D&D movie will have to treat all elves more like the Seelie and Unseelie Courts from Celtic lore than the PHB elves if both good and evil ones exist.
I agree, self-contained stories with ongoing elements. I'd rather we didn't get a TPK. I think fans of some of the more fantastical versions of D&D have to consider that it has little movie pedigree so the budget can't be too ambitious. Character development is way more important than hollow spectacle because without it you can't appeal to a wider audience.No. It was retitled when ESB was released.It was always the fourth episode in Lucas' loose outline, but he started with it specifically because it was the only story that could stand alone and he didn't think it very likely that he would get to make the others.The lesson: any D&D movie can be part of a sequence but it must also be completely self contained. Darlkwalker on Moonshae achieves that (although it's not difficult).
Character development is way more important than hollow spectacle because without it you can't appeal to a wider audience.
Ah yeah, I should have said it's 'much harder to appeal to a wider audience'. There is a sweet spot for every movie and part of that success is timing. Avatar did a great job o bedazzling us with 3d trickery that few since have been able to repeat. Aquaman did also look like a movie that made excellent use of 3d imagery, although I saw it in 2d. I suspect that part of its success is that it has less competition for its niche at the moment but it was well paced, looked beautiful, had eye-popping CGI with awesome 3d effects, not one but two romance plots, and had a good cast.That said, its plotting was childishly simple, its approach to politics was infantile, and it was yet another example of Smurfette syndrome. Conan the Destroyer is possibly the best example of a big budget D&D movie that I can think of, although some of its plotting and most of its characterisation were very juvenile too. Mix that in with Thor: the Dark World and Pan's Labyrinth and see where we're at. :-DAvatar and Aquaman beg to differ.