D&D 5E Remember the "3d6 For Stats In Order" Thread? I'm doing it!

iserith

Magic Wordsmith
@clearstream recently had a couple of threads on this topic. One of the DMs in my secret cabal decided to give it a try for a dungeon crawl called "Dugholdeep." I will be playing in this game which starts in a couple weeks.

It's 3d6 for stats in order, but one random stat can be replaced by a 3d6k2+6 roll (keep two highest of the d6 rolls then add 6) if the random stat it chooses is lower than this result. So, you might be able to improve one stat or you might not. Here's the result I got for my character:

kolblacklungstats.JPG


Check out that Constitution! At least two other party members also have terrible Constitutions (8 or less), so as a result we're basically trying to correct for that in our 5th-level character builds. I have created the following character based on these stats which I'm told is basically a 39/27 point buy.

kolblacklung.JPG


I went Hill Dwarf for the +2 Con, then did my 4th-level ASI to Con. That brought me up to a respectable 9 Con, plus the hill dwarf gives +1 hp per level so it's kind of like having a 10 (where hit points are concerned anyway). My Wisdom is not quite where it should be in my view, but it's not terrible and obviously Strength is great, so I intend to get into melee and chose to limit all my spell selection to non-Concentration spells and nothing that requires a save or spell attack roll. Mostly the spells are healing or utility, plus Spiritual Weapon which I've refluffed to be a picket sign that says "Strike!" on it. I intend to make use of a 3rd-level Aid spell daily to help my sickly friends and make me better at tanking. I hope any Con saves I have to make are due to poison.

Kol Blacklung is a coal miner from the hill country and hard times have fallen upon his people due to the burgeoning whale oil industry. So he's a union organizer and voice for the flinty workers of his native land. He recently underwent some job retraining to become an adventurer to help make ends meet. An aged fellow who has spent most of his life in the mines, he has a terrible hacking cough but this doesn't stop him from smoking his hand-rolled cigars. With the respect of the stout folk and his trusty war pick, Kol intends to use his success to revitalize the local hill dwarf economy by setting up jobs programs and working towards exporting coal to the elf lands.

So, the experiment has been fun so far. We'll see how this all goes down in actual play. I don't think the DM is pulling any punches as we've been asked to make backup characters. I haven't made that character yet, but I did roll its stats: Str 10, Dex 13, Con 13, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 6 with 525 gp starting gold. Yeesh. That's 15/27 in point buy terms. Which I guess averages out with Kol's stats! (Please don't die, Kol.)

If there's sufficient interest, I'll report on how Kol does on his adventures. In the meantime, please feel free to offer your suggestions to tweak his build or tactics. And if you have any ideas for my backup character, I'd welcome them.
 

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clearstream

(He, Him)
I like the "Blacklung" part, and associated background, and I also like the flaw that he can't rely on Concentration spells. Seems right to envision heavy armor... will be be (effectively) sword and board? I can't help thinking that Athletics would have been a good choice for skills...

[EDIT] The bonus roll is generous: does it somewhat undermine the roll in order? Can you say anything about how you felt as you created the character?
 

iserith

Magic Wordsmith
I like the "Blacklung" part, and associated background, and I also like the flaw that he can't rely on Concentration spells. Seems right to envision heavy armor... will be be (effectively) sword and board? I can't help thinking that Athletics would have been a good choice for skills...

Sword and board, yes. Currently with splint and shield. I'll be looking to upgrade to plate as soon as the cash starts rolling in. I imagine my bonus action each turns will be the war priest extra attack or a spiritual weapon attack. If we've got a chokepoint, I can see dodging and letting the rest of the party hide behind me and do damage while I harass with spiritual weapon. I should have 38 hp with the Aid spell which isn't awful.

I think he'll be fine with +4 Athletics. I don't intend to grapple much as his hands are full already. And if he gets grappled, well, at least one of my sickly comrades isn't. And in a pinch, I'll just spend Inspiration to try and get lucky. Skills are History, Insight, Persuasion, Religion. So I've got some ability to participate in social interaction challenges and assist with recalling useful lore.

[EDIT] The bonus roll is generous: does it somewhat undermine the roll in order? Can you say anything about how you felt as you created the character?

I don't know if the bonus roll necessarily undermines the premise. It is assigned to a random stat and only applies if it's higher than said stat. I don't know the math on this, but obviously having it is better than not in terms of net benefit. It just might not always be a good result.

I wouldn't say I had any particular feeling about creating the character other than trying to figure out best to mitigate the poor Constitution score which I feel I did well enough. That effort at mitigation informed a number of the character's key features like race and flaw. But otherwise, pretty much status quo for me and my process.
 

clearstream

(He, Him)
I wouldn't say I had any particular feeling about creating the character other than trying to figure out best to mitigate the poor Constitution score which I feel I did well enough. That effort at mitigation informed a number of the character's key features like race and flaw. But otherwise, pretty much status quo for me and my process.
You mean the world didn't end? Players look at one another, aghast, put down their books and walk away from the table?
 

iserith

Magic Wordsmith
You mean the world didn't end? Players look at one another, aghast, put down their books and walk away from the table?

LOL nah. We all had a good laugh at our characters and then set about trying to get the most out of what we have. And so Kol Blacklung and his companions Boris the Brittle, Hothead Jimmy, MAL Function, and Tony Gorgonzola were born.
 

rgoodbb

Adventurer
Ha! Nice names. They all sound like they're from a punk band.

Do report on your adventures. I love hearing how others play and you lot sound like you'll have a load of laughs.
 

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Wow, you got some astounding stats!

In 3.5 (or was it 3.0) I had a 7 CON character. I made him an elven wizard because I figured d4-2 where it couldn't give less than zero for a level was the best deal. :)

Of course, like second or third session I ended up out of spells (this was pre-cantrips) and everyone else in the party paralyzed by ghouls with two wounded ones left so I grabbed a paralyzed PC's long sword (elven proficiency) and dived into the combat. Any hit would have brought me below zero, but I had up Mage Armor (or whatever it was called back then) and though great dice luck (especially on them missing) finished them off.

So of course, that became part of Tisevail's personality and he'd occasionally get into melee with d4-2 HP per level. (I keep wanting to say "hit dice" but that means something different now.)

So what I'm saying is that with a CON of 5, HPs are going to suck anyway and I would have doubled down and went Bladesinger. You chose the foolish "non-suicidal" route. :)
 

iserith

Magic Wordsmith
So, the experiment has been fun so far. We'll see how this all goes down in actual play. I don't think the DM is pulling any punches as we've been asked to make backup characters. I haven't made that character yet, but I did roll its stats: Str 10, Dex 13, Con 13, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 6 with 525 gp starting gold. Yeesh. That's 15/27 in point buy terms. Which I guess averages out with Kol's stats! (Please don't die, Kol.)

Any thoughts on race/class/build for these stats above (bolded)? I need some ideas for my backup character. All official content plus UA permitted. Feats/multiclass okay.
 

Str 10, Dex 13, Con 13, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 6 with 525 gp starting gold.
Any thoughts on race/class/build for these stats above (bolded)? I need some ideas for my backup character. All official content plus UA permitted. Feats/multiclass okay.
Maybe Eladrin (MToF) non-Arcane Trickster Rogue with ASI for +1 DEX, +1 WIS
 


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