D&D 4E Developing a full Martial Controller Monk Via Feats / Build

[Garthanos]

The above does not mention the genetic memory but it is the empowerment when they take the Waters of Life so its gained concurrent with the ability to shrug off even the most intense of poisons.

A history skill bonus as well as power swapping as well as...

A number of those could indeed work as martial practices or perhaps already are actually such as Transcendental meditation and Feign death and forestalling afflictions variously.

 

[Garthanos]

Perhaps the best way to build one might be to take the Deva and make it Bene Gesserit "race". Alter damage resistance to be Necrotic and Poison perhaps. They are genetically engineering themselves after all.

Build up the Voice as both a charisma based monk power or maybe more than one and otherwise an extreme uses intimidate like I said needs some cha in there ... they seem to multi-class well with Warlords too.

They are the illuminati

 

[Garthanos]

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[Garthanos]

OK so Bene Gesserit

• Deva race modified a small amount to give the uber poison damage resistance. (this gets a long ways down the line) perhaps has a dex attribute bonus in place of another but not thinking that is authentic - just optimization attractive.
• A Charisma Secondary Build for Monk and some Explicit Controller powers derived of it.
• A martial technique (I pretty much have made already) that allows one to flavorfully stop bleeding.
• Martial Practice or reflavoring of existing one to improve endurance checks in a skill challenge over exposure or lack of food or similar.
• Bonuses to Insight skill no reason the truth sensing needs to be too explicit but it could be racial or could be class some class utility powers.
• Intimidation Bonuses and a Background for gifted with the voice (nicer flavor than wandering duellist lol), Intimidation needs to be a class skill.

 

[Garthanos]

...I could see a full, Marital Controller class that embraces martial-arts Masters of all stripes, and a post-E style hybrid Martial|Psionic "Monk" sub-class that uses mystical-Ki-as-Psi

Hybrid Monk and Psion as it stands is a terrible attribute combo... Dex Wis Int Cha... utter botched up conflicting overlaps

 

[Tony Vargas]

Hybrid Monk and Psion as it stands is a terrible attribute combo... Dex Wis Int Cha... utter botched up conflicting overlaps

Right, "hybrid" has a jargon meaning.
I meant the Monk could be a sub-class rather than a full class, and, like the Skald, Hunter/Scout, and Berserker combine Martial with another Source - in the Monks case, Psionic.

 

[Garthanos]

Right, "hybrid" has a jargon meaning.
I meant the Monk could be a sub-class rather than a full class, and, like the Skald, Hunter/Scout, and Berserker combine Martial with another Source - in the Monks case, Psionic.

Sure I am looking for inspiration for going further with the Charisma secondary build of the monk. Betrayal from the Psion class is pretty good or the hypnosis wizard at-will. But not thinking Dex is an element if you see what I mean. I could see something like a sword dancers move where clever nubile movement is used to hypnotize with charisma backers but hard to make that feel like "The Voice." - straight Charisma abiltiy with a bonus so that Charisma is only secondary?

 

[Garthanos]

A Predictive Intelligence where Intelligence was used in place of Dexterity might actually fit for Bene Gesserit in general though. They are also somewhat fond of mixing with Mentats so that might go a long ways. It seems a bit uber in some sense.

 

[Garthanos]

There is a Bard ability that allowed them to use Charisma for basically all your Multi-classing / Hybrid Powers wasnt there?

 

[Garthanos]

The presentience and Mentat Training element of the Quisad Saderack / Paul Attrides and other characters in the story (who are both Mentat and Bene Gesserit) similar makes the idea of Predictive Intelligence feat rather attractive. It would allow a Int Charisma Psion hybrid as Monk without much more to be said on the matter. Those who do not have that would be still be MAD but the heroic special cases.

Mechanically there is a precedent while it specifies multi-class I am thinking it ought to work with hybrid powers as well.

I am thinking of making a Feat Predictive Intelligence to allow Intelligence to be applied to Dexterity attack powers or the rider effect of an attack power which grants a bonus based on Dexterity, which is kind of narrower than the above (possibly allowing initiative based on Int) seems like a good idea and really fits the flavor too.