D&D 5E criteria for new races to be added to the PHB

[Coroc]

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Half-Orcs are an interesting thing to mention because I think they're one of the more "vulnerable" races in current D&D,

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Just ROFLMAO this just made my day,

Look at that poor vulnerable halforc, he just wants to play

I know of course what you your meant but still this made me cringe.

Conan: "What makes a man is to to drive his enemies before his sword and enjoy the laments of their women"
Hyperborian RPG rulebook: "... Barbarians are among the more vulnerable races in the game ..."

 

[Paul Farquhar]

But as being absolutely optional and campaign dependant. Or are the FR fans cool now with a Goblin promenading the market in Waterdeep? I would expect a torch and pitchfork mob, because maybe farmers have lost their relatives to Goblins.

This is the thing of course. A Forgotten Realms goblin is a vicious always evil monster. Goblins in other settings are really completely different creatures who just happen to look the same and have similar stats.

 

[gyor]

But as being absolutely optional and campaign dependant. Or are the FR fans cool now with a Goblin promenading the market in Waterdeep? I would expect a torch and pitchfork mob, because maybe farmers have lost their relatives to Goblins.

Even in earlier editions Waterdeep was cosmopolition about such matters compared to other cities.

It used to be the only humaniod race banned from city were Drow, but eventually even Drow where let in.

And now a lot of cities, most allow almost any race as long as it's not large enough to be an army.

And a single Goblin or family of Goblins are not scary if they act civilized.

You know what race surprises me that are allowed into human cities in the Forgotten Realms? Elves. Knowing Elven History, those are the scary race. They caused the first Sundering, Crown Wars, Genocidal Magics, and so much more.

 

[Coroc]

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You know what race surprises me that are allowed into human cities in the Forgotten Realms? Elves. Knowing Elven History, those are the scary race. They caused the first Sundering, Crown Wars, Genocidal Magics, and so much more.

Yes, and given some earlier conflicts and historic events which for these long living races might be not so far in the past, it is also astonishing that elves and dwarves get along quite well.

 

[gyor]

This is the thing of course. A Forgotten Realms goblin is a vicious always evil monster. Goblins in other settings are really completely different creatures who just happen to look the same and have similar stats.

Goblins in FR aren't always evil, they still have free will and in fact Gobliniods as actually common in Zakharan cities for example. Of Course Zakhara even managed to civilize Trolls and Hill Giants!

 

[gyor]

Yes, and given some earlier conflicts and historic events which for these long living races might be not so far in the past, it is also astonishing that elves and dwarves get along quite well.

Yeah, I'll invite Gobliniods into my cities before I'd feel safe around Elves, look what they did to the 12 cities of Jhaamdath for example, the greatest Psionic civilization in FR history, wiped out in minutes by a tidal wave caused by Elven High Magic. Just one scary ass example.

 

[gyor]

That's just too simplistic. You have to look at why it's it's being reprinted, if it's popular with players (rather than DMs/setting writers, who often have odd ideas about "cool" races), what archetypes it covers, and whether it's actually popular enough to displace other PHB races. That's your bar.

It doesn't have to displace another race, I'm talking for PHB 5.5e or 6e.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

It doesn't have to displace another race, I'm talking for PHB 5.5e or 6e.

I don't think there is much chance a 5.5E or 6E PHB will have more races than 5E. I mean, it's not impossible, I guess. 3E had 7, 4E had 8, 5E has 9, so I suppose 6E could have 10 but I suspect if anything sticking with 9 or going down to 8 is more likely.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

But as being absolutely optional and campaign dependant. Or are the FR fans cool now with a Goblin promenading the market in Waterdeep? I would expect a torch and pitchfork mob, because maybe farmers have lost their relatives to Goblins.

Of course I expect to see Goblinoids in Waterdeep. It’s Waterdeep.

There is an Orcish nation that trades with Waterdeep and the other cities and states of the north.

And there are probably farmers that lost relatives to human raiders and bandits, too. FR is a world that is canonically assumed to be less xenophobic in most places, but especially in places like Waterdeep, than the actual Earth Middle Ages.

 

[Coroc]

Of course I expect to see Goblinoids in Waterdeep. It’s Waterdeep.

There is an Orcish nation that trades with Waterdeep and the other cities and states of the north.

And there are probably farmers that lost relatives to human raiders and bandits, too. FR is a world that is canonically assumed to be less xenophobic in most places, but especially in places like Waterdeep, than the actual Earth Middle Ages.

Well FR is lost then , soon there will be the law of Gruumsh ruling the place.

Just kidding, any real world similarities are totally coincidental (not)
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