Zak Smith is suing his accusers

[Umbran]

If they were a friend or family member I would urge them to Press charges and get a restraining order.

And, if there were no video evidence of the event, how do you think they'd prove it?

 

[Morrus]

I don’t care about just don’t someone not convicted of anything.

What?

 

[Arnwolf666]

And, if there were no video evidence of the event, how do you think they'd prove it?

Would you want to be judged without due process and just have someone convict you based on their accusations. I think not. I’m terrified of false accusations.

 

[lowkey13]

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[Morrus]

Would you want to be judged without due process and just have someone convict you based on their accusations. I think not. I’m terrified of false accusations.

I’m judging you right now without due process.

I don’t know what you mean by “convicted” though. Don’t worry, @Arnwolf666, whatever it is you’re afraid somebody is going to accuse you of, you won’t be “convicted” without trial.

 

[Arnwolf666]

Woah. Let's unpack a few basic things, please.

1. A person (such as me) doesn't convict you. The government does. I judge you, like I'm doing right now, but I don't convict you.

2. You only get due process when it comes to the government. When the government tries to deprive you of life, liberty, or property, you get the process that you are due. That's it. The amount of process you are due depends on the nature of the proceeding and your interest. You get more process if the government is trying to take your life, than if they are taking a government benefit (for example).

3. I'm sorry that you are terrified of false accusations. There's a lot of other things out there that are terrifying; I would suggest having some empathy and talking to people about what their experiences are, and seeing what they have actually experienced. As opposed to the boogeyman that terrifies you.

TLDR; actual harassment and abuse is worse than unfounded fear.

Apparently this guy is being deprived of alot. Shunned and losing work. I’m trying to have empathy for people falsely accused.

 

[lowkey13]

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[Arnwolf666]

sigh

You understand that private people (and companies) are not the government, right?

Did you read what I wrote?

Yes. And I am not either. I choose to show compassion for the falsely accused.

 

[Gradine]

Apparently this guy is being deprived of alot. Shunned and losing work. I’m trying to have empathy for people falsely accused.

Yes. And I am not either. I choose to show compassion for the falsely accused.

And your evidence that he is falsely accused in this instance is...?

 

[lowkey13]

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