Warren Ellis
Explorer
What is max strength in 5e? 25?
D&D 5E Bringing a Real World Character to a Fantasy World
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Because the idea was supposed to be the players in the fantasy world. In addition, ego prevents people from accepting that someone might have "better scores" than them IRL (this was in high school, btw). If it was done in 5E the simple solution would be to use point buy, allowing the players to define themselves, but in AD&D that option wasn't available (since it hadn't been thought of).
30, it is +10 to hit +10 in damage, so comparable to 24-25 (I think +6,+12) in 1e/2e
(where you got higher +to hit bec. of THAC0 20.....1, instead of 5e prof +1......+6)
Warren Ellis
Explorer
At Strength 30, how strong is someone?
Absolutely superhuman, a tarasque (size of a brontosaurus or two or so) has Str 30.
for humanoids the natural limit is 20, a level 20 barbarian can go to Str 24 as he rages.
As I wrote Str 20 (which also a Halfling can achieve in 5e) would IRL be about the strongest man in the world.
Son of the Serpent
Pupil
Basically look at iceland's winners during some years of their "world's strongest man" competitions and you will see strength 20 individuals. In many ways this is a better option than looking at the olympics. The strongest men of all compete in this competition.
Son of the Serpent
Pupil
You can push, drag, or lift a weight in pounds up to twice your carrying capacity (or 30 times your strength score). While pushing or dragging weight in excess of your carrying capacity, your speed drops to 5 feet.
So strong enough to move 900 pounds very slowly or 450 pounds at normal speed.
So strong enough to move 900 pounds very slowly or 450 pounds at normal speed.
Son of the Serpent
Pupil
Huh...d&d actually undershot. None of that makes any sense. D&d's high limit for human natural strength should translate to way more capability. Also it cant be that they just used the upper natural limit of women to be inclusive because that would have been far lower. So these numbers dont make sense regardless of contextual information.
World record for leg press is way over 2k and the record for dead lift is way over 1k.
The strength to lifting capability numbers in d&d are in fact actually well under IRL level.
Ive never even competed in weight lifting and ive beaten "strength 30".
And the world record holders have absolutely smashed strength 30 d&d adventurers' capabilities let alone "strength 20". You dont even have to be intensely strong to go above strength 20 aparently.
This is all quite strange.
World record for leg press is way over 2k and the record for dead lift is way over 1k.
The strength to lifting capability numbers in d&d are in fact actually well under IRL level.
Ive never even competed in weight lifting and ive beaten "strength 30".
And the world record holders have absolutely smashed strength 30 d&d adventurers' capabilities let alone "strength 20". You dont even have to be intensely strong to go above strength 20 aparently.
This is all quite strange.
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Well, max weight lift, along with distance jumped formulas are used for simplicity, no accuracy. That and competitive lifting is different from, say, picking up a rock. A rock you could pick up multiple times.
It's also why you can exceed the values given with an athletics check. The example they give is "Jump an unusually long distance", but I see no reason that wouldn't apply to lifting a weight. After all, professional weight lifting is about strength and technique.
Son of the Serpent
Pupil
If you have a strength of 20 and you attempt to lift a rock that weighs 600.n (where n is an infinitessimally small number) pounds, you arent supposed to be able to lift it at all. Its supposedly above a ceiling for you which cannot be crossed without assistance of some kind.
Doesnt that seem weird to you?
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