doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Definitely a world where Paladins and Clerics are extremely rare, to be fair.Spoilers for DragonLance novels:
I'm pretty sure Flint, from the OG DragonLance trilogy, dies of a heart attack.
Definitely a world where Paladins and Clerics are extremely rare, to be fair.Spoilers for DragonLance novels:
I'm pretty sure Flint, from the OG DragonLance trilogy, dies of a heart attack.
Definitely a world where Paladins and Clerics are extremely rare, to be fair.
I think you’re jumping to conclusions and should avoid putting words in other folks mouths.I think you are starting to treat clerics as if they are modern doctors, which they're not really.
I think you’re jumping to conclusions and should avoid putting words in other folks mouths.
I'd consider this to be more in the capabilities of Greater Restoration rather than Lay On Hands.
I figure a geas spell is probably about as close as you get in 5e to modeling addiction, and lay hands wouldn't end that spell, but it would cure some of the damage.
Hmmm, an addiction demon (that casts geas) wouldn't be too kosher in general, but with the right party.....
Well, no. The clerics belief about them would be entirely irrelevant. Detect Poison and Disease would simply tell the cleric what they are.These are your words;
If so, if a Paladin can cure a disease that is at least partly psychological, can they cure disorders that we don't define as diseases, in the modern world? Can they cure ADHD? What about Anti-Social Personality Disorder (Psychopathy/Sociopathy), or Schizophrenia?
If that's not you treating clerics as modern doctors, please reword your question. These are all modern terms, and you yourself use the term "modern world."
In a medieval setting, these are all things a cleric would not believe are diseases. They would consider them personal failings, or madness. So they would not truly be treatable by a lesser restoration if we are going by a strict following of the RAW.
So, 30 ft, 10 minutes at a time, as a Ritual. Detects not only the presence of disease and poison, but also what kind each one is.
So, yeah, Clerics “by strict RAW” probably aren’t operating under medieval ideas of what diseases are, unless the DM has decided that those are the objective truth of the setting.
Since the premise of the thread includes the assumption that biology works as it does in the real world unless magic changes it or requires a change, then the question is simply whether a chemical addiction would register as a disease, andthe answer has nothing to do with medieval popular conceptions of anything at all.
IMO, the chances that this spell isn’t part of regular temple service is...small, anywhere that has a Priest or two capable of casting 1st level clerical rituals. Giventhe PHB assumptions on services available in small towns and cities, communication even in the real world amongst clergy of major faiths (even if it takes years, information and doctrine is being communicated)...the local priest knows that the village drunk has a disease, and that the physical components can be healed, of that is the decision of the GM as to what chemical addiction is as an objective truth, in the setting.
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Again, the Cleric or Paladin or Druid or Ranger casting the spell knows that a person within 30ft has a disease, and what it is.
Well look I think a cleric can cure a chemical addiction fairly easily; chemical addictions behave a lot like diseases in a stricter sense, as the subject is putting foreign substances into the body that cause ill effects. I see no reason why a lesser restoration can't cure an addiction to tobacco (although just because someone loses the ill effects of tobacco and it's withdrawal, I think they may very well return to it anyway).
So yes, lesser restoration should be able to cure the physical implications of chemical addiction, which are pretty similar to contracting a disease. It should not be able to cure the psychological effects of addiction; if a drunk was genetically predisposed to drinking before ever picking up alcohol, he will remain so after a lesser restoration. So he may become an addict again, or may not.