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Only the Lonely: Why We Demand Official Product

Oofta

Legend
It's funny that people keep asking for rehashes of old stuff. Especially when we have a posting that the pre-orders for Wildemount are better than for any other previous publication put out by WOTC. Does anybody really believe any of the older settings would generate that kind of excitement? Really?

It's kind of like the kids complaining about how "their" band was cool until they sold out and went lamestream.
 

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Fenris-77

Small God of the Dozens
Supporter
That's a great point. You can't go home, can you? Mostly I'd be excited about reboots of settings I love, but I'm also not adverse to change.
 

pemerton

Legend
They're asking for their favorite setting to be kept alive. It's a lot easier to recruit new players if there's a widespread product that revitalizes the existing community or brings in a new one.
I though most D&D campaigns were homebrew with a bit of FR mash-up. Assuming that's true, is it really that hard to recruit players for a GH campaign? That sounds odd to me, but I'm not part of the player recruitment scene so perhaps there's something I'm missing.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
It's funny that people keep asking for rehashes of old stuff. Especially when we have a posting that the pre-orders for Wildemount are better than for any other previous publication put out by WOTC. Does anybody really believe any of the older settings would generate that kind of excitement? Really?

It's kind of like the kids complaining about how "their" band was cool until they sold out and went lamestream.
I think the only older setting that has the potential to rival this would be Planescape. The others were popular, but not as popular.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
They're asking for their favorite setting to be kept alive. It's a lot easier to recruit new players if there's a widespread product that revitalizes the existing community or brings in a new one. There's always places like Canonfire and a zillion other places on the internet, but that's very different from having a glitzy, new product from the publisher. The reach on the internet may, theoretically, be farther, but the prominence is really much lower.
I think more than keeping it alive, since if you have the 1e fluff you can run a Greyhawk game with it just fine, is that people want mechanical support for that fluff. A few feats, magic items and subclasses that have been built and play tested. As well as perhaps 5e stat blocks for some prominent NPCs.
 

Sadras

Legend
I think the only older setting that has the potential to rival this would be Planescape. The others were popular, but not as popular.

Sadly that is true and that is due to the passage of time that has elapsed since the last time those settings were published (i.e. old fans have died, moved on and new D&D players have settled in with the newer settings).
 

Retreater

Legend
I'm guessing a LOT of tables have switched from using XP to "Everyone levels up now". I think this was stongly pushed when Adventure Paths started rolling in during 3e since each segment of the path was earmarked for characters of a certain level band.
This is true, and I use milestone rather than traditional XP awards in my games as well.
However, this could be handled by awarding flat XP awards in chunks. For example, after completion of this chapter, characters will receive 1,000 XP* (or whatever number). That amount could be enough for a level for a rogue or fighter, but halfway there for a wizard or cleric.
As long as we move away from tracking XP for each monster, trap, etc., and give it out in chunks, I'm okay.
 

Anoth

Adventurer
As much as I love planescape (Faction War never happened) I have modified it almost beyond recognition (except for the use of the original factions plus a few more and keeping the lady of pain as very enigmatic). I am curious what they will do. Mine is much more high tech and I know that will never happen. I see alot of merging spelljammer and planescape online. I’ll buy and scavenge the things I like from whatever they do and ignore the rest. I love the guvners!!!
 

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