Only the Lonely: Why We Demand Official Product

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It’s a Shou Lung rocket made by Gond Wondermakers - get with the times!
Shou Lung of course meaning Aebir-Toril's Final Reward. It's expensive bought separately, but it comes in the value pack too, which is a fine deal at 100gp. Exploding fun for the whole party. Buy yours today, supplies are limited.
 

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Shou Lung of course meaning Aebir-Toril's Final Reward. It's expensive bought separately, but it comes in the value pack too, which is a fine deal at 100gp. Exploding fun for the whole party. Buy yours today, supplies are limited.
Hey! Even I know what Shou Lung means! It's an FR ethnicity... right?

I'll fight off every FR goon with my plasma rifle.
 

Hey! Even I know what Shou Lung means! It's an FR ethnicity... right?

I'll fight off every FR goon with my plasma rifle.
Yep, the Shou are FR’s equivalent to China’s warring states.

The Shou philosopher Pan Hu had a fascination with astronomy and was extremely vocal that the Shou people should “reach for the stars”, defying the conventional wisdom of the time that the heavens were the perview of the gods themself. After being denied a royal grant to build a vessel to travel to the heavens and viewing a fireworks celebration at the capital, Pan Hu developed his own vessel to make a trip to the skies above. Strapping 99 rockets to a sturdy throne-like chair, he launched himself into the predawn sky as the moon loomed high above him. Pan Hu’s brazen flight allowed the chair to escape Amber-Toril’s orbit, but the rockets were not of sufficient power for him to reach the nearby moon. He had come prepared though, and escaped the pyrotechnic destruction of his seat via a bamboo kite he brought along for just such an emergency. However, he had not accounted for the severe cold beyond the safety of Aber-Toril, and had a passing Giff vessel not been attracted by the pyrotechnic display, he would have frozen before he could be safely returned home. Upon his return, he took his findings to the Emperor, who then bestowed a grant upon Pan Hu to continue his research, which eventually led to the first Spelljammer Helm, based on his rocket-chair design. Gond, the wonder-maker, was so impressed with Pan Hu’s work that he passed the knowledge to western Toril, where Spelljamming Tradesmen were devised, with rocket-propelled throne-like shuttles became popular ways to travel between ship and surface
 

Yep, the Shou are FR’s equivalent to China’s warring states.

The Shou philosopher Pan Hu had a fascination with astronomy and was extremely vocal that the Shou people should “reach for the stars”, defying the conventional wisdom of the time that the heavens were the perview of the gods themself. After being denied a royal grant to build a vessel to travel to the heavens and viewing a fireworks celebration at the capital, Pan Hu developed his own vessel to make a trip to the skies above. Strapping 99 rockets to a sturdy throne-like chair, he launched himself into the predawn sky as the moon loomed high above him. Pan Hu’s brazen flight allowed the chair to escape Amber-Toril’s orbit, but the rockets were not of sufficient power for him to reach the nearby moon. He had come prepared though, and escaped the pyrotechnic destruction of his seat via a bamboo kite he brought along for just such an emergency. However, he had not accounted for the severe cold beyond the safety of Aber-Toril, and had a passing Giff vessel not been attracted by the pyrotechnic display, he would have frozen before he could be safely returned home. Upon his return, he took his findings to the Emperor, who then bestowed a grant upon Pan Hu to continue his research, which eventually led to the first Spelljammer Helm, based on his rocket-chair design. Gond, the wonder-maker, was so impressed with Pan Hu’s work that he passed the knowledge to western Toril, where Spelljamming Tradesmen were devised, with rocket-propelled throne-like shuttles became popular ways to travel between ship and surface
Dang it, rockets that can escape the 'atmosphere' of Abeir cough -Toril...
 

Yep, the Shou are FR’s equivalent to China’s warring states.

The Shou philosopher Pan Hu had a fascination with astronomy and was extremely vocal that the Shou people should “reach for the stars”, defying the conventional wisdom of the time that the heavens were the perview of the gods themself. After being denied a royal grant to build a vessel to travel to the heavens and viewing a fireworks celebration at the capital, Pan Hu developed his own vessel to make a trip to the skies above. Strapping 99 rockets to a sturdy throne-like chair, he launched himself into the predawn sky as the moon loomed high above him. Pan Hu’s brazen flight allowed the chair to escape Amber-Toril’s orbit, but the rockets were not of sufficient power for him to reach the nearby moon. He had come prepared though, and escaped the pyrotechnic destruction of his seat via a bamboo kite he brought along for just such an emergency. However, he had not accounted for the severe cold beyond the safety of Aber-Toril, and had a passing Giff vessel not been attracted by the pyrotechnic display, he would have frozen before he could be safely returned home. Upon his return, he took his findings to the Emperor, who then bestowed a grant upon Pan Hu to continue his research, which eventually led to the first Spelljammer Helm, based on his rocket-chair design. Gond, the wonder-maker, was so impressed with Pan Hu’s work that he passed the knowledge to western Toril, where Spelljamming Tradesmen were devised, with rocket-propelled throne-like shuttles became popular ways to travel between ship and surface

I assume that was probably inspired by the story of Wan Hu?


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I think that when it comes to settings a lot of it is about hoping to recapture that feeling of excitement and wonder that comes with discovering that stuff for the first time.

That moment when your imagination lit up as you thumbed through those pages and the ideas were just popping.

People tend to associate that feeling with the content of what they were reading rather than the time on their life in which they were reading it.

So they think that some updated version of Greyhawk or Dark Sun will give them that feeling again.

But how can they? It’s more about the moment....and the moment’s passed.

Then, when they see others who are experiencing that magic moment, they look at the content of what triggered it and dismiss it. “Wildemount? That’s ridiculous!!!”

I don’t think that this is the sole reason to want to see updated material from old settings. There are others that are reasonable. But I think this is the biggest reason for the demand for official material of this sort, the seemingly inevitable disappointment when they get it, and the resistance to newer things.
 

I assume that was probably inspired by the story of Wan Hu?


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Yep, though I think I read this account in Spelljammer - Realmspace.
I would argue that's T'u Lung. Shou Lung is based on China of a more civilized age - particularly the Han Dynasty.

Thanks for the correction, it’s been years since I’ve read through Kara-Tur material (I’m more enamored with L5R’s Rokugan).

which brings me to Hawkeyefan’s comments - there’s a lot of people who are familiar with old material and are hoping for a current update - often because they don’t access to the old material (or it’s dated and could use some modernization). Some people just don’t know how or what they should do to update old campaigns, and an “official” product can do that for them.
 

Some people might think laziness as a factor. It's a lot of work to port something over. But a lot of people don't have the time, energy, or talent to do it themselves. That's understandable.

More important to consider, however, is gaining an official consensus. D&D is very easily the most open and accessible system to play. You can get a random group of players to sit at the table at a moment's notice, or gather publicly in random groups during events, like AL. In these cases, it can be much less of a hassle to have an officially sanctioned set of rules and options to ensure everyone is on a similar page from the start.

For a home or private game, however, house rules and interpretations are much easier to pass for a small group. But then again, it could go back to a lack of time, talent, and energy.
 

I think that when it comes to settings a lot of it is about hoping to recapture that feeling of excitement and wonder that comes with discovering that stuff for the first time.

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I don’t think that this is the sole reason to want to see updated material from old settings. There are others that are reasonable. But I think this is the biggest reason for the demand for official material of this sort, the seemingly inevitable disappointment when they get it, and the resistance to newer things.

This sounds like Star Wars fans, too. You just can't recapture the magic, because a big part of it is the newness, and how it hit you at a certain time in your life. I can't really recreate getting my D&D Black Box and Rules Cyclopedia when I was 9, watching the Star Wars trilogy for the first time when I was 12, playing through Final Fantasy VII when I was 17, or reading The Magus when I was 25. All I can do is be open to new possibilities... beginner's mind, as they say in Zen...
 

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