WotC "D&D's Best Year Yet"

[Zardnaar]

It's Hasbro. If they don't survive, then no toymaker in the world has.

Depends on how much debt other companies are in and cashflow.

Hell Disney might not survive but smaller studios well. WotC cashflow is Magic. I'm guessing FNM isn't doing to well atm.

 

[Mistwell]

Is that enough assuming they need to set it on fire and burn it for a year or 3?

I wouldn't know. But I also don't think that's likely. People still buy board games even during a depression. Not as many, but it's still the type of item which sells.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

Depends on how much debt other companies are in and cashflow.

Hell Disney might not survive but smaller studios well. WotC cashflow is Magic. I'm guessing FNM isn't doing to well atm.

If you don't think Disney is going to survive this, I should probably stop engaging.

 

[Zardnaar]

If you don't think Disney is going to survive this, I should probably stop engaging.

They'll survive, might be owned by someone else.
They're in debt for billions, share price is collapsing and cashflow had evaporated.

Parks won't be reopening, cruise industry is dead and movie theaters are closed and looking at chapter 11.

Anyone with a few tens of billions in liquidity can probably pick Disney up in a few months at this rate.

So yeah Disney +as an independent company) may not survive it's that bad.

D&D/Magic relies on group play often in stores (for magic). That's why I'm thinking 2019 was the peak for geek culture.

I could be wrong but see how things play out.

 

[Parmandur]

They'll survive, might be owned by someone else.
They're in debt for billions, share price is collapsing and cashflow had evaporated.

Parks won't be reopening, cruise industry is dead and movie theaters are closed and looking at chapter 11.

Anyone with a few tens of billions in liquidity can probably pick Disney up in a few months at this rate.

So yeah Disney +as an independent company) may not survive it's that bad.

D&D/Magic relies on group play often in stores (for magic). That's why I'm thinking 2019 was the peak for geek culture.

I could be wrong but see how things play out.

Twitch is a thing, and people playing Magic Arena do pay WotC.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

They'll survive, might be owned by someone else.
They're in debt for billions, share price is collapsing and cashflow had evaporated.

Parks won't be reopening, cruise industry is dead and movie theaters are closed and looking at chapter 11.

Anyone with a few tens of billions in liquidity can probably pick Disney up in a few months at this rate.

So yeah Disney +as an independent company) may not survive it's that bad.

D&D/Magic relies on group play often in stores (for magic). That's why I'm thinking 2019 was the peak for geek culture.

I could be wrong but see how things play out.

No one has a "few billion" in liquidity right now. By the time someone does, we will be well into a recovery phase.

Frankly, I am confused by your understanding of economics. Right now, the big businesses (Disney, Hasbro, Walmart, Amazon) are the one's most likely to secure investment, loans, and other cushions to sustain them during an economic downturn. It is the smaller businesses that lack these resources who will go under.

If you say the "biggest business in this industry" will go down, you're essentially saying that the industry itself will go down. Sometimes this is true; when Blockbuster went down, that equaled the industry of renting physical movies in a big box store done forever.

But toys, movie theaters, plane travel, entertainment itself? Even cruises will eventually come back. That happens in recessions/despressions.

So no, Hasbro and Disney aren't going out of business, and aren't going to get bought.

 

[gyor]

This.

Not really needed in a few of those countries anyway. UBI is less than existing welfare systems.

That depends on the countries, here in Canada where Trudeau and others have built a patch work almost UBI, the emergency benifit is $2000 a month, which is a lot more then folks on disability or welfare get (welfare is like 600 roughly).

Anyways I didn't mean the whole world is going to go UBI, I was more refering to western 1st world nations. I do think a depression is aviodable.

Still I didn't mean to pull the discussion towards the political.

Back on the topic of D&D I wonder what kind of cut WotC is going to get of BG3's profits?

 

[darjr]

Did it feel like dnd best year to any of y’all?

 

[Mistwell]

Did it feel like dnd best year to any of y’all?

Yes

 

[Morrus]

It's the year I started playing Pathfinder again!