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D&D and the rising pandemic

Zardnaar

Legend
To be fair, how competent or incompetent the US government is, depends wildly on who is currently in office. US mistrust in their own government is not always unjustified. Right now they are stuck with a president that denies science and the pandemic. I think that is fair reason to not trust who's in charge.

Besides, people also judge their goverment by their actions, and/or inaction.

The US is not alone in this. There are minor protests in the Netherlands right now, and big protests in Spain (or so I've heard).

It's an inherent thing systematic to USA. Normally takes several years to turn a USAian into a kiwi.
 

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Hussar

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No, I get that there are issues. Of course there are. But, this flat out distrust of the government, when the government says, "Hey, the doctors are telling us to stay at home, so, folks, stay at home" and people just refuse to believe. I was reading about the boycott Costco movement in the States because Costco insists that patrons wear a mask.

People were actually trying to claim that this is against their rights. Sorry, no. It's really not. There's nothing in the Constitution that says that a private business cannot tell you to wear something before coming in. No shirt, no shoes, no service isn't a joke. One woman actually talked about how wearing a mask had negative health effects because of restrictions of oxygen. :erm:

If your mask is so fine that it restricts oxygen, it's not a mask, it's a plastic bag. Please don't put that on your head.

And, there is a difference too. Some countries are protesting bungled government actions in combatting corona virus. Ok, fair enough. These chuckleheads are claiming that it's a government conspiracy to take away your rights and turn America into a police state.

It's mind blowing.

Then again, people here in Japan are pissed off because a local cartoonist (Doremon) had his character tell them that if they stay home and wear their masks, things will be better in the future. And Doremon knows because he's from the future. BIt tone deaf maybe, but, sheesh. People get pissed about the weirdest things.
 

No, I get that there are issues. Of course there are. But, this flat out distrust of the government, when the government says, "Hey, the doctors are telling us to stay at home, so, folks, stay at home" and people just refuse to believe.

I know, it is kind of baffling. People yell about their freedoms because they have to spend a few months socially isolating, when the alternative is death. In this respect I am in total agreement with Cuomo:

 

UngainlyTitan

Legend
Supporter
No, I get that there are issues. Of course there are. But, this flat out distrust of the government, when the government says, "Hey, the doctors are telling us to stay at home, so, folks, stay at home" and people just refuse to believe. I was reading about the boycott Costco movement in the States because Costco insists that patrons wear a mask.

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My anecdotal response, is that when I visited the US back in the noughties I was astonished at the amount of stuff thrown at the average American, via TV and other media, through the prism of fear, Politics, perfume, oatmeal.
It was very much "Buy (into) this or be a looser/dead or whatever. I was amazed.

I have also wonder if the fondness for dystopian fiction over the last 20 years or so been somewhat unhelpful.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
No, I get that there are issues. Of course there are. But, this flat out distrust of the government, when the government says, "Hey, the doctors are telling us to stay at home, so, folks, stay at home" and people just refuse to believe. I was reading about the boycott Costco movement in the States because Costco insists that patrons wear a mask.

People were actually trying to claim that this is against their rights. Sorry, no. It's really not. There's nothing in the Constitution that says that a private business cannot tell you to wear something before coming in. No shirt, no shoes, no service isn't a joke. One woman actually talked about how wearing a mask had negative health effects because of restrictions of oxygen. :erm:

If your mask is so fine that it restricts oxygen, it's not a mask, it's a plastic bag. Please don't put that on your head.

And, there is a difference too. Some countries are protesting bungled government actions in combatting corona virus. Ok, fair enough. These chuckleheads are claiming that it's a government conspiracy to take away your rights and turn America into a police state.

It's mind blowing.

Then again, people here in Japan are pissed off because a local cartoonist (Doremon) had his character tell them that if they stay home and wear their masks, things will be better in the future. And Doremon knows because he's from the future. BIt tone deaf maybe, but, sheesh. People get pissed about the weirdest things.

Technically we're a police state;).

Very velvet glove they're using emergency powers never used before. Someone sued but it got shot down.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
My anecdotal response, is that when I visited the US back in the noughties I was astonished at the amount of stuff thrown at the average American, via TV and other media, through the prism of fear, Politics, perfume, oatmeal.
It was very much "Buy (into) this or be a looser/dead or whatever. I was amazed.

I have also wonder if the fondness for dystopian fiction over the last 20 years or so been somewhat unhelpful.
That's a large part of it. There's an underlying current of fear in Americans.

They get over here and cops don't carry guns, sometimes forget to lock the door etc.

They're a lot more high strung but that can kind of applies to everyone that's not kiwi or Aussie.

Most people are good most of the time but everyone's shaped by the environment they're raised in.

It's quite funny watching immigrants struggle with the concept of kiwiana.
 



Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Supporter
Pretty much this. Doubt everything this government claims, and use your common sense first and fore most.

The woman with the cut mask was using her common sense. The folks protesting in front of state houses to open up businesses are using their common sense.

See how much that helped?
 


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