D&D 5E The case for (and against) a new Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting book

[Xenonnonex]

On page 14 of ToA is a section entitled "gods of Chult". It's six paragraphs long, a brief extract says "more than a centrury ago, Ubtao simply abandoned Chult..."

So yes, ToA deals with Ubtao, and gods in general.

This may not be relevant in home games.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Talking to others is being a dinosaur? Is this you or quarantine talking?

Not immediately using Google if you want to know something is undoubtedly being a dinosaur (a fossil, a relic, out of touch with the modern world etc).

"I know about the name Ubtao. But I do not know enough information about him" is not the same as "I do not know Ubtao exists". There is a great difference. I do not need to spell this out.

When it comes to playing something, it makes no difference. If you don't know anything about something or you don't know enough about something the result is the same: you don't play that character.

Case in point are your posts on Ubtao. You know about Ubtao but not enough information about him. You do know he exists.

Because I don't care.

But, as it happens, I know more than you: I know Ubtao is not currently (C1490 DR) worshiped in Chult.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

This may not be relevant in home games.

So, you are saying that you want a new Forgotten Realms setting book so you can choose to ignore it?

 

[Xenonnonex]

Not immediately using Google if you want to know something is undoubtedly being a dinosaur (a fossil, a relic, out of touch with the modern world etc).

Quarantine and being out of touch with socializing must be really doing a number.

When it comes to playing something, it makes no difference. If you don't know anything about something or you don't know enough about something the result is the same: you don't play that character.

You may want to assert this opinion onto others but I do not think others will appreciate it. Telling people what they can or cannot play is not up to you or me.

Because I don't care.

Whatever helps you feel better.

But, as it happens, I know more than you: I know Ubtao is not currently (C1490 DR) worshiped in Chult.

Again. This may be irrelevant in home games. And dinosaurs are still revered as Ubtao's sacred children by many. So in a sense he is still.

 

[Xenonnonex]

So, you are saying that you want a new Forgotten Realms setting book so you can choose to ignore it?

I am saying to not assert opinions and prescriptives onto other people's home games.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Quarantine and being out of touch with socializing must be really doing a number.

It seems you have been in quarantine for the past decade, since you don't know about mobile phones and google.

Again. This may be irrelevant in home games.

So what? You claimed the information was not ToA. This is demonstratively FALSE.

 

[Xenonnonex]

It seems you have been in quarantine for the past decade, since you don't know about mobile phones and google.

Whatever helps you feel better.

So what? You claimed the information was not ToA. This is demonstratively FALSE.

I never claimed the information was not there. I said the information is vague at best. And that you need to arrive at conclusions through inference. Actually reading my posts would help.

 

[amethal]

But, as it happens, I know more than you: I know Ubtao is not currently (C1490 DR) worshiped in Chult.

Do you have a source for that?

Page 14 of ToA is inconclusive; it strongly implies Ubtao is gone and forgotten, but also has the phrase "Ubtao himself is no longer popular" when it would have been easy enough to either change to "Ubtao himself is no longer worshipped" or even "Ubtao himself is no longer popular or worshipped".

Personally I think it is bad setting design to categorically state something never, ever happens. Setting guides are supposed to inspire ideas, not rule them out.

"Hey wouldn't it be cool if there was a Chultan group trying to entreat Ubtao back to protect the Chultans once more?"

"Sorry, you can't do that. Absolutely nobody worships Ubtao any more."

 

[Xenonnonex]

Do you have a source for that?

Page 14 of ToA is inconclusive; it strongly implies Ubtao is gone and forgotten, but also has the phrase "Ubtao himself is no longer popular" when it would have been easy enough to either change to "Ubtao himself is no longer worshipped" or even "Ubtao himself is no longer popular or worshipped".

Personally I think it is bad setting design to categorically state something never, ever happens. Setting guides are supposed to inspire ideas, not rule them out.

"Hey wouldn't it be cool if there was a Chultan group trying to entreat Ubtao back to protect the Chultans once more?"

"Sorry, you can't do that. Absolutely nobody worships Ubtao any more."

Definitely agree.

I find the assertions of "do not play this character" because of not enough information is baffling bizarre. And incredibly out of touch. DMs should be encouraging players. Not bluntly shooting them down.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Do you have a source for that?

Page 14 of ToA is inconclusive; it strongly implies Ubtao is gone and forgotten, but also has the phrase "Ubtao himself is no longer popular" when it would have been easy enough to either change to "Ubtao himself is no longer worshipped" or even "Ubtao himself is no longer popular or worshipped".

Personally I think it is bad setting design to categorically state something never, ever happens. Setting guides are supposed to inspire ideas, not rule them out.

"Hey wouldn't it be cool if there was a Chultan group trying to entreat Ubtao back to protect the Chultans once more?"

"Sorry, you can't do that. Absolutely nobody worships Ubtao any more."

You can do what you like with it - it's your setting.

But it's irrelevant - a dedicated FR setting book that covered Chult would say exactly the same thing, the fact that ToA also includes an adventure makes no difference whatsoever.

And you objection raises another issue. If WotC did do another FR setting book that advanced the timeline, the chances are the rabid FR fanatics would object to the design decisions made anyway.