D&D 5E Banishment and swallowed creatures

[aco175]

For instance Misty Step says range is self. It doesn't say that it brings gear/belongings in any capacity even though I have always run it that way.

I would have it bring the equipment mostly since nobody would make a spell like this if it didn't. Not as sure about another person. We have always allowed it to get away from someone grappling you, but what about someone you are carrying. Not sure on a dying person that may be like an object since he cannot take actions, but what about carrying the halfling to help him across the chasm or does this now bring into something like a goblin grappling you being like the halfling.

 

[Greenstone.Walker]

The Paladin pops back in, gooey and slimey, rather confused and with one heck of a tale to tell !

Maybe not (which is why this is an important question).

After 10 rounds incapacitated in the belly of a purple worm the paladin will probably pop back in dead.

 

[Eltab]

Maybe not (which is why this is an important question).

After 10 rounds incapacitated in the belly of a purple worm the paladin will probably pop back in dead.

Per the OP this spell was going to be used the same round the Paladin was swallowed. The Paladin was not yet down for the count.
Just think: "Yah, it swallowed me down but I breathed a prayer and got a couple good blows on it, cut my way out of its body, looked around a moment - weird! I can't explain how - then poof I was back here. "

 

[Fanaelialae]

Per the OP this spell was going to be used the same round the Paladin was swallowed. The Paladin was not yet down for the count.
Just think: "Yah, it swallowed me down but I breathed a prayer and got a couple good blows on it, cut my way out of its body, looked around a moment - weird! I can't explain how - then poof I was back here. "

Pretty sure what he's saying is that the banishment spell incapacitated its target. Presumably that includes the paladin (since he also effectively was banished), meaning that the paladin cannot act. However, incapacitation doesn't affect digestion. Therefore, it is quite possible that the paladin would be dead by the time the banishment ends.

 

[Greenstone.Walker]

Therefore, it is quite possible that the paladin would be dead by the time the banishment ends.

Yes, that is the situation we were in in a game last year. If the purple worm was banished for 10 rounds, the swallowed character was looking at taking 40d6 acid damage.

 

[Maxperson]

So, a couple of weeks ago were playing a one-shot where we were investigating a bunch of insectoid arcane creatures who'd invaded from another plane, and as we were approaching their lair we came up against the guard dog - a huge chitinous worm-thing that was basically a toned-down Purple Worm. It won initiative and promptly swallowed the paladin.

My warlock was going last, and I already knew I was going to Banish this sucker. It was a big, dangerous bag of hit points that could digest us to death, and it was alone, and extraplanar - Banishment was an "I win" button if it failed its save. But what would happen to the paladin?

As it turned out, the paladin managed to deliver sufficient Smite damage on her turn to get vomited out, so our DM didn't have to answer that conundrum, but I was left wondering. Would the swallowed paladin have been banished too? Would she have got a saving throw?

How would you rule it?

The critter is being banished. The paladin is in the critter's body when it goes back to its plane, so she goes with it. She would not get a save, because she cannot be banished.

 

[Maxperson]

RAW it affects one creature.
If it was grappling another creature, that wouldn't be banished too. Or if it was carrying a creature: you couldn't get rid of both a mount and it's rider. You couldn't banish a dragon by casting banishment on the dude riding it (or grappling it).

But rulings not rules and rule of cool. It would be fair to have a swallowed creature make the save as well (possibly with disadvantage) to avoid being dragged along.
And, honestly banishment is a pretty potent spell. So anything to humble it's use is fun.

Those situations involve two creatures that are separate from one another, not one that is ingested and is essentially part of the swallowing creature unless it can get out.

 

[Raduin711]

I probably would have had the paladin remain, while the creature was banished. Unless the paladin was dead. At which point, his body becomes a thing and thus a possession of the creature.

 

[jasper]

The Paladin would get banished as well. I'm ok with there being some situational downsides to the spell. If I was feeling nice I might give the Paladin a save too.

Ditto. Paladin is getting send away without his supper with no save. The Worm is going to get tummy rumbles from the his junk food. D&D is a team base game, and sometimes a teammate does a foul getting you into a mess.

 

[jasper]

Ok cut to the case, does the paladin player own me money? Or are they willing to make the beer run?