D&D 5E What Level 20 Class Would Win?

Which Class Would Win?



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Well, It's a class feature as rage. It isn't magical effect as druid wild shape.
Unlike Wild Shape, nothing says that description is a magical transformation.
It is entirely a magical effect:

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"...as a bonus action to magically transform yourself..."

And antimaigc field:

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Suppresses magical effects.

So, no, Umbral Form will not work inside an Antimagic Field.
 



No worries. Mine is a screen shot from the text in the book. Easy enough mistake for you to make, but it is one reason why I don't use a lot of such sites. It would a great combo if it DID work together, but sadly it won't.
It still works well if the enemy doesn't have a magical weapon .
The Shadow Sorcerer disarm an enemy with a Distant Telekinesis and quicken a spell. The simulacrum duplicates.
 
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It still works well if the enemy doesn't have a magical weapon .
The Shadow Sorcerer disarm an enemy with a Distant Telekinesis and quicken a spell. The simulacrum duplicates.
If the enemy wield an magical weapon. Quicken a spell and cast Blade Ward cantrip.
Well It's still 3 damage.
Well, as a DM I would do the damage reduction for HAM first before applying resistance (after all, the armor is contacted by the weapon first...) but it is subject to whichever way the DM rules it. I don't know of anything that would make it concrete one way or the other.

Personally, IMO a wizard will ALWAYS defeat a non-caster. Against other casters, it becomes a counterspell/dispel magic battle and the luck of the die starts playing a roll. The edge still favors the wizard I think, but at that point spell selection and strategy also becomes factors.
 

Personally, IMO a wizard will ALWAYS defeat a non-caster. Against other casters, it becomes a counterspell/dispel magic battle and the luck of the die starts playing a roll. The edge still favors the wizard I think, but at that point spell selection and strategy also becomes factors.
The sorcerer always win a counterspell/dispell magic battle. Subtle Spell.
Also, It wins with distant spell with Long range spells like Insect Plague with distant spell or distant dimention door.
Umbral form gives edge over position and movimentation and total cover advantage

"Personally, IMO a wizard will ALWAYS defeat a non-caster"
Personally, IMO a Sorcerer will ALWAYS defeat a caster
 
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The sorcerer always win a counterspell/dispell magic battle. Subtle Spell.
Also, It wins with distant spell with Long range spells like Insect Plague with distant spell or distant dimention door.
Umbral form gives edge over position and movimentation and total cover advantage
Yeah, subtle spell is a pain but not a instant "win" thing. That's why I said spell selection, strategy, and the encounter set-up also becomes a factor. Sorcerer's can burn through sorcery points insanely quickly in such competitions and they either run out of deplete spell slots to gain more SPs.

Wizard's have many spells that are in their arsenal alone (excepting Bards and Magical Secrets, but that is rather limited).

Either way, as I said, against non-casters, Wizards easily prevail. Against other casters, it depends on a lot of factors.
 

Yeah, subtle spell is a pain but not a instant "win" thing. That's why I said spell selection, strategy, and the encounter set-up also becomes a factor. Sorcerer's can burn through sorcery points insanely quickly in such competitions and they either run out of deplete spell slots to gain more SPs.

Wizard's have many spells that are in their arsenal alone (excepting Bards and Magical Secrets, but that is rather limited).

Either way, as I said, against non-casters, Wizards easily prevail. Against other casters, it depends on a lot of factors.

Subtle and Distant both costs only 1sp and It's literally a pain against a spellcaster. Sorcerer level 20 has 20 SP and It's an extra resource that an wizard doesn't have acess. Look, It's extra.

An battle against a Shadow Sorcerer rarely extend more than 2 turns.
 

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