WotC Dungeons & Dragons Fans Seek Removal of Oriental Adventures From Online Marketplace

[Aldarc]

I followed the link, but it links to 13 podcast 2h long on average. Sorry but, no, I won't listen to them. If there's a condensed transcript of the series somewhere, I'd gladly read it.

Ummm... there are multiple links in Dire Bear’s initial link, including to tweets by Kwan himself where he posts examples. I found this all in less than 30 seconds. Basic detective work here.

 

[Danzauker]

Oh, it would really horrible if the dark powers of the demiplane of the dread abduct your characters towards a new dark domain full of kenders.

Kenderloft. Domain of Dread.

 

[Danzauker]

Ummm... there are multiple links in Dire Bear’s initial link, including to tweets by Kwan himself where he posts examples. I found this all in less than 30 seconds. Basic detective work here.

The tweets don't seem to tell much. i see there's no list of the offensive points or anything like that, unless my work server is crippling my navigation.

EDIT: I found this for example.

"If you disagree, you have clearly never had a piece of pop culture harm you. Books like this take my culture, oversimplify the nuances that make it beautiful, mash it together with other cultural reductions, and present it as THE WAY others should view our stories."

First is condescending. He forces his opinion on me. He states that I never found something that offended my culture. He does not know me. Even though I'm rarely offended and pretty easygoing, I have gotten into cultural offensive material. And I reacted. And guess what? I reacted wether the fact offended my culture or ANOTHER culture. So, no, you do not speak for everybody.

Second, the second period, I found that absolutely absurd. It's not THE WAY, it's ONE WAY to tell a story. I keep supporting the fact that mashing cultures together in a fictional literary work is perfectly normal. Sorry if someone disagrees with me. It's my opinion and I defend it.

 

[Zardnaar]

Kenderloft. Domain of Dread.

Mercy. I surrender. Terms. Help.

 

[jasper]

Kenderloft. Domain of Dread.

Even the Count S is not evil enough to enter that plane. The horror, the horror.

 

[Sadras]

Should I be offended at people mixing my ancestors with Greek?

Given, Una Faccia, Una Razza, probably not.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Actually I think it would be pretty hard to find the right people to help write this book. There is a high probability WotC would find themselves choosing between say, a middle-aged white guy with a PhD in East Asian studies and RPG industry experience vs. a 23 year old Asian with a D&D blog and a couple modules on DMs Guild. I wouldn't want to have to make that choice. The best scenario would be to have the former help in a ghostwriting capacity, I guess.

Orrrrr, crazy idea, but they could work together openly? I think that's nonsense that it would be hard to find people, though. I have multiple East Asian friends my age (40-ish) who have played D&D, and I'm in the UK, where there are a lot fewer East Asian people than the US, so I find it totally impossible to believe that you couldn't find talented East Asian writers who loved RPGs (even if they had limited design experience, that's easily dealt with - plenty of people with decades of design experience are pretty terrible designers where some kids in their twenties are good, too) in the United States, let alone the wider world.

 

[Sadras]

I was always a little sad when I found out that they had so much more planned for the line but it ended up being canned. I recall reading in a dragon mag that Bruce Heard had a gazetteer on the region of the Heldannic Knights that never eventuated.

There were 10 fan-based ones which were released and should be available for download either at Pandius or the Piazza.

EDIT: Here it is GAZ F7 The Heldannic Order and its map by JTR (not Thorfinn Tait)
Bruce Heard was the honourary lead designer.

Didn't help it got hit the hardest in TSR's "Nuke Phase" when every setting got completely rewritten.

I don't believe I'm aware of this - what do you mean the settings got completely rewritten? Which settings in particular?

 

[Alzrius]

Kenderloft. Domain of Dread.

Fun fact: Domains of Dread (1997) has this to say about the kender population living in Sithicus (page 50):

Although Soth destroyed most of the kender that existed in the domaln by turning them into kender vampires through dark experiments, a few survived and now live in the woods. They have the reputation of being some of the most violent and xenophobic people of the Core. Natives avoid the areas of the forest that have been claimed by the kender. Visitors to the domain can recognize the boundaries of kender territory by the rotting heads that are spiked to the trees at its edges; the kender of Sithicus thus turn trespassers into "No Trespassing" signs.

...okay, maybe that fact wasn't so fun after all.

 

[Danzauker]

Fun fact: Domains of Dread (1997) has this to say about the kender population living in Sithicus (page 50):



...okay, maybe that fact wasn't so fun after all.

Every Darklord has a curse and a punishment. Sith has kenders. Even Azalin and Strahd send him support notes every once in a while...