WotC WotC is hiring Senior Manager for Diversity, equity and inclusion.

[Maxperson]

im not so sure about the first part

You can't base hiring or firing on skin color. It's a protected class. If someone didn't hire me because I'm white and I could prove it(the hard part), I would get lots of money from that company.

I think when you combine all the ingredients together, the name of the card, the number, the image itself, and knowledge about the artist, a reasonable person can look at it and think there's more going on than just a coincidence.

The card number is coincidental and when you are being executed, you have been sentenced to death with prejudice. With prejudice means that it's final. No more appeal. That combined with a clear executioner's axe and garb, and I don't see any reason to assume KKK.

 

[FrogReaver]

You can't base hiring or firing on skin color. It's a protected class. If someone didn't hire me because I'm white and I could prove it(the hard part), I would get lots of money from that company.

technically no, but practically they can.

 

[Maxperson]

technically no, but practically they can.

Hence the part I put in parentheses.

 

[Fenris-77]

Not hiring someone because they are white is a good way to get sued. Plus, a white person can just as capable as any other person at this position.

They could be, sure, and I wouldn't not hire a white person, but I would certainly be looking at all the candidates I could. I think that kind of accusation would be really hard to prove unless the difference in candidates was really egregious.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Because that picture couldn't possibly be executioners in executioner hoods.

You're right. It literally couldn't possibly [just] be executioners in executioner hoods.

The card number is coincidental and when you are being executed, you have been sentenced to death with prejudice. With prejudice means that it's final. No more appeal. That combined with a clear executioner's axe and garb, and I don't see any reason to assume KKK.

This is the most twisted logic I've seen on this forum in a while. Impressive, almost. The card isn't invoking an obscure usage of the term prejudice that pretty much no legal layperson will think of when reading it, it's invoking the prejudice directly referenced in the text of the card.

I think that kind of accusation would be really hard to prove unless the difference in candidates was really egregious.

Any candidates that have close to the same credentials, there is really no way to prove discrimination.
Not to mention that direct personal experience with being discriminated against would be a legit qualifier for such a job, which would make it harder to prove discrimination in hiring a Black person than it would be to prove it in hiring a white person.

 

[Maxperson]

You're right. It literally couldn't possibly [just] be executioners in executioner hoods.

Yet those are exactly what they are. Executioner outfits. Complete with an executioner's axe.

This is the most twisted logic I've seen on this forum in a while. Impressive, almost. The card isn't invoking an obscure usage of the term prejudice that pretty much no legal layperson will think of when reading it, it's invoking the prejudice directly referenced in the text of the card.

And you think Richard Garfield is that racist? Because he's who allowed that name and card to be printed.

 

[Mistwell]

This position is not going to review every word and picture of every product that will go out the door. This isn't some Maoist cultural officer that needs to sign off on content before it's published. It's an HR position!

Their job with respect to that sort of stuff is to help educate people in the company to these issues, help hire people who wouldn't make the decision to publish that sort of stuff in the first place, or who might want to ask because they will notice there might be something off about it, to be a resource people can talk to about that sort of stuff, and to help PR if something like that needs damage control.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

1488 is literally full of meaning.

Not for when it actually happened in that context. I was looking around online and trying to find the first documented use of 14 and 88 together for its rcist meaning and everything is so close timewise to when that card was originally created and put in that spot in the printing run, that it was not on purpose, unless it was done by Richard Garfield himself. Plus, as I was reading around, the reverse of the number, 8814, has the same meaning. So what Magic card has that number? Is it a racist card too?

 

[Charlaquin]

Not for when it actually happened in that context. I was looking around online and trying to find the first documented use of 14 and 88 together for its rcist meaning and everything is so close timewise to when that card was originally created and put in that spot in the printing run, that it was not on purpose, unless it was done by Richard Garfield himself.

I do not believe it was purposeful. This does not mean it is not meaningful. Again, the card with the name and effect that, in context with the art, have racist implications, having an ID number that happens to be a hate symbol, whether intentionally assigned that number or not, carries meaning. Racists will rally behind it, and have done so. It’s an unfortunate coincidence, but one that has long needed addressing, and fortunately has finally been addressed.

Plus, as I was reading around, the reverse of the number, 8814, has the same meaning. So what Magic card has that number? Is it a racist card too?

Opal Avenger

Doesn’t seem particularly racist to me. I mean, ask some PoC what they think about it I guess, but I’m pretty sure no neo-nazis are using this card as a symbol.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

They definitely shouldn't not hire someone because they're white, but even if they did, there's little you can do to prove that happened, unless you were told it was for that reason you were not hired.

It would obviously be good if they hired a non-white for this position, but they shouldn't hire them because of their skin color any more than they would not hire a white person because they're white.