D&D 5E Running Rime of the Frost Maiden

[Khelon Testudo]

Huh. Not every campaign assumes 'kill necromancer on sight'.

 

[Scott Christian]

Thank you.

And wow, this is BAD


or


ugh

No offense, but if all DM's were as unimaginative and needed to be spoon fed as the one you quoted, all adventures (all movies, all RPG's, all tv shows, all books, all stories told around a campfire) would be full of plot holes. And to be even more fair, you are talking about an adventure that is TWO pages long. But yeah, let's find the plot holes.

Two things: Suspension of disbelief and reading the nuance.

Hlin followed the caravan for ten days... from town to town. Eventually she had stop. Why? Maybe she felt they were getting suspicious. Maybe she was running low on coin and needed to replenish her purse from home. Maybe she realized she wouldn't be able to take out the killer, Sephek, so instead waits to find someone that can.

And laughable say-so? Three people have been murdered. Live in a town of 150 and have someone murdered and see if the "veteran bounty hunter who has honed skills throughout her years" isn't viewed as a good investigator. Attach that to her noticing Sephek's ability to not be cold during a time of a magically prolonged winter and things can add up.

 

[Wasteland Knight]

Thank you.

And wow, this is BAD


or


ugh

What’s worse is all the posters I see not only defending this product, and in some cases, enthusiastically praising it.

This is why we won’t see advances in the design quality coming out of WITC anytime soon.

 

[DEFCON 1]

This is why we won’t see advances in the design quality coming out of WITC anytime soon.

Was there a time you thought Wizards (or TSR) had a superior level of design quality for their adventures that they aren't reaching anymore?

 

[Wasteland Knight]

Was there a time you thought Wizards (or TSR) had a superior level of design quality for their adventures that they aren't reaching anymore?

Yes.

 

[robus]

Was there a time you thought Wizards (or TSR) had a superior level of design quality for their adventures that they aren't reaching anymore?

For me, I just assumed that after 50 years of adventure creation it would be down to a fine art for professionals in the business. But apparently it's still kind of hit and miss.

Edit: for example, the fact that they don't even bother to tag encounters with the expected difficulty or give some guide to the adventuring day break down of the adventure, shows they give little thought to the DMs trying to run these damn things. And that's just some basic info they could easily provide.

 

[Reynard]

What’s worse is all the posters I see not only defending this product, and in some cases, enthusiastically praising it.

This is why we won’t see advances in the design quality coming out of WITC anytime soon.

Well since this one guy on Twitter hates it, we should all shred our copies...

It's totally okay to not like a thing, and to exalt a particular reviewer's opinions. But when those combine to create a false sense of objective fact, it makes people look pretty silly.

 

[robus]

Well since this one guy on Twitter hates it, we should all shred our copies...

It's totally okay to not like a thing, and to exalt a particular reviewer's opinions. But when those combine to create a false sense of objective fact, it makes people look pretty silly.

Well it’s not like WotC doesn’t have a history of producing hare-brained adventures for 5e... so I’d say it‘s fair enough to assume this likely follows the pattern. And sorry if there are some of us who expect more from this publisher.

 

[Ancalagon]

Well since this one guy on Twitter hates it, we should all shred our copies...

It's totally okay to not like a thing, and to exalt a particular reviewer's opinions. But when those combine to create a false sense of objective fact, it makes people look pretty silly.

The Alexandrian isn't just "some guy". He's an award-winning blogger who's given a lot of thought on how adventures work, what makes them function etc.

He's also published pretty thorough fixes for a number of WotC adventures, and they are pretty good at fixing the structural problems of these scenarios.

The Alexandrian

Welcome to The Alexandrian!

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for example: Dragon Heist Remix – Part 1: The Villains

edit: So this is why, earlier in this thread, I recommended waiting for his fixes to be published.

 

[Flamestrike]

Check out his thoughts on Velynne Harpell.

He pointed out there’s a section in the adventure where she gets plot armor and can’t be killed due to her importance to the adventure.

He also comments on the ridiculousness of expecting players not to immediately attack an obvious necromancer.

Why would players attack an obvious necromancer?

Unless they want to get arrested for murder.

What are they, psychopaths?