So, Wandavision?

[Omand]

I was assuming that to be Talos.

You know, I had not thought of that angle.

He certainly did share some screen time with both Rambeaus.

Cheers

 

[RangerWickett]

I enjoyed the climax, but I feel like it didn't match the quality of many of the earlier episodes. It wasn't as tightly paced, and . . . I dunno, I'm sad there wasn't any remaining TV-isms.

The actual victory Wanda and Vision each had was great, but I feel the conflict of the episode suffered from something you see in a lot of D&D adventures: the 'threat' of the fight was just "the bad guy will kill us." That ends up lowering the stakes, and makes the heroes less heroic. I mean, anyone would fight to stay alive, but you want to see heroes fight to protect someone else, or even just to fix the problems they caused.

 

[Eric V]

Anyone else bothered by how easy Wanda was let off?

"They'll never know what you sacrificed for them." What?! Yeah, ok...Wanda has been mind-raping them for I-don't-know-how-long and she gets to just fly away? And they present Agatha as the main bad guy? Please.

Mind you, this is the same universe that saw Tony Stark face ZERO consequences for Ultron, so...

I really hoped that it wouldn't end in a blasty-fight-against-the-bad-guy but...Marvel.

I also wish Bettany and Olson hadn't made the comments they did (Skywalker? Really?). After training their audiences for years to look for meaningful clues, etc. to have Pietro be nothing was just...ugh. Tell me why I should care the next time.

 

[Tonguez]

I enjoyed the climax, but I feel like it didn't match the quality of many of the earlier episodes. It wasn't as tightly paced, and . . . I dunno, I'm sad there wasn't any remaining TV-isms.

The actual victory Wanda and Vision each had was great, but I feel the conflict of the episode suffered from something you see in a lot of D&D adventures: the 'threat' of the fight was just "the bad guy will kill us." That ends up lowering the stakes, and makes the heroes less heroic. I mean, anyone would fight to stay alive, but you want to see heroes fight to protect someone else, or even just to fix the problems they caused.

Yeah, I was a little disappointed really, While the Vision and Wanda battles were very Marvelesque, I do agree they lost much of the complexity which raised the rest of the show to superlative levels.

I also think Wanda got off a bit too easy with what she did to the Townsfolk, them pleading with her to let them go or at least let them die shows just how harrowing the experience was and then she retaliates by trying to strangle them - sure she let them go afterwards, but does that mean now everything is forgiven because she is an Avenger?
surely the poor townsfolk need better justice than that

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Yeah, I was a little disappointed really, While the Vision and Wanda battles were very Marvelesque, I do agree they lost much of the complexity which raised the rest of the show to superlative levels.

I also think Wanda got off a bit too easy with what she did to the Townsfolk, them pleading with her to let them go or at least let them die shows just how harrowing the experience was and then she retaliates by trying to strangle them - sure she let them go afterwards, but does that mean now everything is forgiven because she is an Avenger?
surely the poor townsfolk need better justice than that

I imagine that consequences will be a theme again in the MCU again at some point, and the hex will come back to haunt her.

 

[Eric V]

Yeah, I was a little disappointed really, While the Vision and Wanda battles were very Marvelesque, I do agree they lost much of the complexity which raised the rest of the show to superlative levels.

I also think Wanda got off a bit too easy with what she did to the Townsfolk, them pleading with her to let them go or at least let them die shows just how harrowing the experience was and then she retaliates by trying to strangle them - sure she let them go afterwards, but does that mean now everything is forgiven because she is an Avenger?
surely the poor townsfolk need better justice than that

In fact...

If Agatha hadn't come along, what would have happened in Westview...?

Look, not for heroic reasons, obviously, but there's no denying Agatha's actions saved the people of Westview from Wanda.

 

[BRayne]

Anyone else bothered by how easy Wanda was let off?

"They'll never know what you sacrificed for them." What?! Yeah, ok...Wanda has been mind-raping them for I-don't-know-how-long and she gets to just fly away? And they present Agatha as the main bad guy? Please.

Mind you, this is the same universe that saw Tony Stark face ZERO consequences for Ultron, so...

I really hoped that it wouldn't end in a blasty-fight-against-the-bad-guy but...Marvel.

I also wish Bettany and Olson hadn't made the comments they did (Skywalker? Really?). After training their audiences for years to look for meaningful clues, etc. to have Pietro be nothing was just...ugh. Tell me why I should care the next time.

Olson never said Skywalker level, she just said there was an exiting casting that she was surprised hadn't leaked. Which was pretty clearly Evan Peters.

 

[Imaculata]

I'm glad Agatha was spared, so she can make a come back later in the MCU.

Hope that's not the last we've seen of Vision.

 

[Eric V]

Yeah, I was a little disappointed really, While the Vision and Wanda battles were very Marvelesque, I do agree they lost much of the complexity which raised the rest of the show to superlative levels.

I also think Wanda got off a bit too easy with what she did to the Townsfolk, them pleading with her to let them go or at least let them die shows just how harrowing the experience was and then she retaliates by trying to strangle them - sure she let them go afterwards, but does that mean now everything is forgiven because she is an Avenger?
surely the poor townsfolk need better justice than that

Olson never said Skywalker level, she just said there was an exiting casting that she was surprised hadn't leaked. Which was pretty clearly Evan Peters.

Really?

"When asked by TV Line if the show will have its own Luke Skywalker moment, Lizzie simply said "yes"."

OK, so it's Pietro. Oh no, wait...it's a dick joke.

 

[MarkB]

In fact...

If Agatha hadn't come along, what would have happened in Westview...?

It's hard to say for sure, but I think Vision would still have figured out what was going on, and would eventually have been able to confront Wanda with the full extent of what she was doing to Westview's residents. Wanda wouldn't have found out about the true nature of her power, but she'd still have ultimately made the same choice.