Spoilers Superman Spoiler Thread

[MarkB]

Finally saw it. It’s really good, a great example of a film that’s more than the sum of its parts. In no particular order:

• Brosnahan gives us, finally, the definitive version of Lois Lane on screen. The interview scene, as painful as it is, is a perfect character establishing scene for her.
• Ma and Pa Kent are actually also pretty perfect. Jonathan’s gentle lecture to Clark about parents and children, and how you define yourself by your choices, was brilliant and really earns the payoff of the final scene.
• Lois and Clark actually have a relationship! Hurrah!

And at no point does Lois need rescuing in the movie, in fact she rescues Superman at least once, twice if you count clearing his name.

 

[Stalker0]

And at no point does Lois need rescuing in the movie, in fact she rescues Superman at least once, twice if you count clearing his name.

and you definately should count it twice. Honestly this movie made Lois' reporter skills more important than any other superman movie to me. In a world filled with misinformation, the power of a real truth seeking journalist is magnified 10 fold.

 

[Kichwas]

Yeah - I am curious where this goes, but I was not intrigued by this version of the character either. It also opens up story questions about what his cousin should have told him.

This is a Supergirl who who watched her home planet die.

She’s got trauma to work through. Unlike Superman she also likely knew all along that the Kryptonians intended not to help Earth but to invade it.

Going somewhere else and getting wasted has probably been a way of avoiding that.

Next year we get her movie and get to see. But Supergirl is a lore packed character and Gunn actually likes comics and likes superheroes to be good and not evil like the last DCU guy did so we’re likely in for a great tale here.

You won’t get the CW Supergirl most likely for contract reasons and her lore got too complex. But we also won’t get a serial killer which we would have if Gunn hadn’t taken over.

 

[Kichwas]

My only quibble: Ma and Pa Kent were made out to be serious rubes, albeit kindly ones. That felt a little mean.

I liked that.

They were rural folksy people with good hearts. Today’s politics has us all thinking rural people are hopelessly lost in a cult which just isn’t true. I liked that Gunn made them true to form and let them be country people as well as an ethical center for Clark.

 

[overgeeked]

Next year we get her movie and get to see. But Supergirl is a lore packed character and Gunn actually likes comics and likes superheroes to be good and not evil like the last DCU guy did so we’re likely in for a great tale here.

It really is nice seeing someone who actually likes the source material be in charge for a change. The comics might sell better if writers and artists who actually liked the material they were working on, too.

You won’t get the CW Supergirl most likely for contract reasons and her lore got too complex. But we also won’t get a serial killer which we would have if Gunn hadn’t taken over.

I tried watching that when it started. But I noped out after the 3-4 episode in the first season that had someone else saving Kara or doing whatever needed done in the episode. Got real annoying real quick. She couldn't even be the main character / hero of her own show. So disappointing.

 

[Kichwas]

I tried watching that when it started. But I noped out after the 3-4 episode in the first season that had someone else saving Kara or doing whatever needed done in the episode. Got real annoying real quick. She couldn't even be the main character / hero of her own show. So disappointing.

CW is/was (didn't they go out of business?) mostly a teen network, and they like ensemble casts.

My guess is they think the way to get teens to pay attention is to have a bunch of adults act like overly EMO versions of teens and spend hours on relationship drama. Every one of their shows is basically the middle books of Wheel of Time. They could do a science show and it would end up that way...

Supergirl couldn't be the star of her show just like Stargirl, Flash, and Arrow - because you need a full cast of people to have all that emotional drama going on.

 

[Arilyn]

I liked that.

They were rural folksy people with good hearts. Today’s politics has us all thinking rural people are hopelessly lost in a cult which just isn’t true. I liked that Gunn made them true to form and let them be country people as well as an ethical center for Clark.

I liked them too. When we were introduced to them, I thought, huh, these seem like authentic, non - Hollywood folk. "Real parents."

 

[Maxperson]

Yes, this is my memory too. Not being warm is quite a big step away from conquer the earth and take many wives.

How they portrayed his parents(both sets) really bugged me. Ma and Pa Kent being almost hillbillies, and Jor-El sending his son to conquer and rule the Earth...

It didn't bother me enough to keep me from loving the film, though.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

How they portrayed his parents(both sets) really bugged me. Ma and Pa Kent being almost hillbillies,

What is wrong with hillbillies (aka rural folk)?

 

[dbolack]

What is wrong with hillbillies (aka rural folk)?

Nothing. But Hillbillies and farm folk from Kansas are rather different. The accents were a little weird. And there's a lotta variation in "hillbillies".

That said, most of the bits aside from the accent were simply older parents bits - a return to the idea that the Kents were at the upper end of child-rearing age than the significantly younger versions we've had ( even in Lois and Clark ) recently. Most of the out-of-touch folks bits would have played the same if they were from Brooklyn.