D&D 5E What of the already done settings do you think WotC is revisiting for a Setting Book?

[Yaarel]

Ed Greenwood has also been working with several folks on publishing new material for FR on the DMsGuild, so not sure if Eberron is really unique there.

The difference is, D&D 5e core designers need to officially revamp the lineages, including changing the ability score generation and introducing the various drow ethnicities. It appears they are using the default FR setting to implement this. Probably at some point in the future, a separate core book will consolidate everything.

In addition, both FR designers and Eberron designers are adding world content via DMsGuild, but this relates less to the needs of core.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

The difference is, D&D 5e core designers need to officially revamp the lineages, including changing the ability score generation and introducing the various drow ethnicities. It appears they are using the default FR setting to implement this. Probably at some point in the future, a separate core book will consolidate everything.

In addition, both FR designers and Eberron designers are adding world content via DMsGuild, but this relates less to the needs of core.

You have an odd definition of "need" here. I certainly don't need officially revamped lineages for the drow... the aevendrow can use the exact same stats as normal (udadrow) and you can just remove sunlight sensitivity for lorendrow. You can also just use Tasha's if you absolutely need to make a custom lineage for these. Elves have far too many subraces already, they don't need two more.

I have no idea what "relating less to the needs of the core," means.

 

[Mind of tempest]

You have an odd definition of "need" here. I certainly don't need officially revamped lineages for the drow... the aevendrow can use the exact same stats as normal (udadrow) and you can just remove sunlight sensitivity for lorendrow. You can also just use Tasha's if you absolutely need to make a custom lineage for these. Elves have far too many subraces already, they don't need two more.

I have no idea what "relating less to the needs of the core," means.

restating dwarves and elves to the new paradigm?

 

[Yaarel]

You have an odd definition of "need" here. I certainly don't need officially revamped lineages for the drow... the aevendrow can use the exact same stats as normal (udadrow) and you can just remove sunlight sensitivity for lorendrow. You can also just use Tasha's if you absolutely need to make a custom lineage for these. Elves have far too many subraces already, they don't need two more.

I have no idea what "relating less to the needs of the core," means.

The 5e designers themselves said they need to revamp the lineages to remove vestiges of implied racism that remain as part of the legacy from earlier editions of D&D.

The essence of the mechanical changes are in Tashas. This needs to be implemented along with more careful flavor language for certain lineages.

The 5e designers need to tweak core content for the lineages. The other content for Eberron and Forgotten Realms is more about expanding the known worlds, and less central to the needs of core.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

The 5e designers themselves said they need to revamp the lineages to remove vestiges of implied racism that remain as part of the legacy from earlier editions of D&D.

The essence of the mechanical changes are in Tashas. This needs to be implemented along with more careful flavor language for certain other races.

Explain to me the "implied racism" in the 5E drow's racial stats (not the lore, that's obvious)? The only negative trait is sunlight sensitivity, which is pretty normal for any race living entirely underground.

The one that really needs a revamp is half-orc, but this has nothing specific to the Forgotten Realms.

 

[Ibrandul]

I voted FR but I think Exandria is a very close second in terms of likelihood.

(They're not remotely close in terms of desirability; a new FRCS is one of my top "wants" for 5e, whereas a second Exandria setting book might well end up being the first WotC 5e hardcover I would pass on.)

 

[Yaarel]

Explain to me the "implied racism" in the 5E drow's racial stats (not the lore, that's obvious)? The only negative trait is sunlight sensitivity, which is pretty normal for any race living entirely underground.

The one that really needs a revamp is half-orc, but this has nothing specific to the Forgotten Realms.

In my eyes, for sure, D&D has never been intentionally racist. Fortunately, the founders of D&D − Gygax and Anderson − appear to be decent people, historically, and also seem to lean toward the progressive end of the spectrum of their era.

Nevertheless, in the context of "fun" encounters, there was in the past occasionally seriously objectionable content (such as a random encounter where a young woman falsely accuses the player character of rape). Additionally, the founders are deeply influenced by the speculative fiction of that era, and this "inspiration" often implied full-on racist assumptions. For example, identifying Orcs with reallife ethnic groups that have a "shaman", and calling them Evil and "primitive".

I dont think any of this was intentional, and I am confident the founders themselves would have removed it if called on it. But there is enough unfortunate content that remains part of 5e to warrant a systematic doublecheck to comb stuff out.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

In my eyes, for sure, D&D has never been intentionally racist. Fortunately, the founders of D&D − Gygax and Anderson − appear to be decent people, historically, and also seem to lean toward the progressive end of the spectrum of their era.

Nevertheless, in the context of "fun" encounters, there was in the past occasionally seriously objectionable content (such as a random encounter where a young woman falsely accuses the player character of rape). Additionally, the founders are deeply influenced by the speculative fiction of that era, and this "inspiration" often implied full-on racist assumptions. For example, identifying Orcs with reallife ethnic groups that have a "shaman", and calling them Evil and "primitive".

I dont think any of this was intentional, and I am confident the founders themselves would have removed it if called on it. But there is enough unfortunate content that remains part of 5e to warrant a systematic doublecheck to comb stuff out.

I don't disagree with anything here, but it didn't address my question at all.

 

[Yaarel]

I don't disagree with anything here, but it didn't address my question at all.

I thought I did. Maybe rephrase your question?

 

[Urriak Uruk]

I thought I did. Maybe rephrase your question?

I did explain "implied racism". Saying it is part of the D&D legacy that transmitted from earlier editions. I dont think the original founders of D&D intended it. But it did happen, because of particular oversights for encounters. It especially happened because the founders are transmitting content from earlier speculative fiction that was inherently racist. Some of these sources were even intentionally racist.

Explain to me the "implied racism" in the 5E drow's racial stats (not the lore, that's obvious)?

That is what I was referring to when saying I see no reason why a new book needs new stats for the new subdrow races. Their stats do not imply anything negative beyond "they live underground."