D&D 5E Strixhaven: Curriculum of Chaos No Subclasses Confirmed by James Crawford

Faolyn

(she/her)
Rogue: Propagandist (Think Assassin's Creed meets Thomas Paine)
There's already the mastermind rogue and whispers bard.

Now, this is an example of how, in a future edition, multi-class archetypes could be used. Because a propagandist/social engineer archetype could work quite well for rogues or bards alike. But not for 5e. It would have to be built in from the start.
 

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Remathilis

Legend
Fans don't want ultra-specific subclasses and feats that can't be ported over to homebrew worlds. Strixhaven colleges were too tied to how MTG works and not how you would divide D&D casters.

Subclasses yes, feats no. Eberron has two very setting specific feats (Aberrant Dragonmark and Revenant Blade) that don't make a lot of sense outside of Eberron's take on dragonmarks and elves. Granted, its the only example so far, but the idea that the setting-specific feats are off the table is a false one.
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
Subclasses yes, feats no. Eberron has two very setting specific feats (Aberrant Dragonmark and Revenant Blade) that don't make a lot of sense outside of Eberron's take on dragonmarks and elves. Granted, its the only example so far, but the idea that the setting-specific feats are off the table is a false one.
I didn't say setting specific feats are off the table. I said that's not a high priority for content for most fans. It isn't what most fans want.

We will see if a 10 level adventure, a single race, and some setting specific feats can carry a whole setting book
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
I didn't say setting specific feats are off the table. I said that's not a high priority for content for most fans. It isn't what most fans want.

We will see if a 10 level adventure, a single race, and some setting specific feats can carry a whole setting book
Well, I mean, the point is the Setting and campaign superstructure being provided in the Adventure. The previous Setting books aren't really sold on incidental crunch, that's just frosting on the cake.
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
Well, I mean, the point is the Setting and campaign superstructure being provided in the Adventure. The previous Setting books aren't really sold on incidental crunch, that's just frosting on the cake.
That frosting might be a major driver of sales.

The setting books had crunch that could easily be reflavored. The issue with the Strixhaven colleges were that not only were to subclasses too unbalanced to fix in a short term frame, they were so ultra-specific that you could not simply reflavor them as their themes were no way universal nor common. You really had to port the whole school elements without editing the pieces.

This is different from an artificer or domain of dread that could for in many settings and be edited.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
That frosting might be a major driver of sales.

The setting books had crunch that could easily be reflavored. The issue with the Strixhaven colleges were that not only were to subclasses too unbalanced to fix in a short term frame, they were so ultra-specific that you could not simply reflavor them as their themes were no way universal nor common. You really had to port the whole school elements without editing the pieces.

This is different from an artificer or domain of dread that could for in many settings and be edited.
The Bestiaries were probably more of a selling point.
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
The Bestiaries were probably more of a selling point.
That too.

Bits of settings that can be tossed into other settings.

The problem I predicted with the MTG settings are that the stuff that isn't generic fantasy, a lot of it is tied to how MTG works and thinks and doesn't exist outside of MTG in the same way.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
That too.

Bits of settings that can be tossed into other settings.

The problem I predicted with the MTG settings are that the stuff that isn't generic fantasy, a lot of it is tied to how MTG works and thinks and doesn't exist outside of MTG in the same way.
But the way Magic works and thinks fits with D&D well enough? Those books have been awesome so far, and this looks to carry that trend.
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
But the way Magic works and thinks fits with D&D well enough? Those books have been awesome so far, and this looks to carry that trend.
So far because like I said before and in other threads, those were the most D&D friendly settings

Strixhaven is an all caster setting based around 5 colors that don't exist in D&D and their pairings.
 

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