Anyone Else Tired of The Tyranny of Novelty?

[doctorbadwolf]

Yes. Im also tired of watchung movies where the entire world/universe is at stake. Its been done so much its not even exciting anymore. Its just normal.

For sure. Stuff can definitely get old. I’m tired of zombies, for instance.

But I also wouldn’t give a movie a bad review just because its about zombies. Because lack of novelty doesn’t mean it isn’t good. X

 

[TheSword]

Oh, yes there is, whether you intended it or not.

You've complained about the tyranny of novelty; nostalgia/conservativsm is the antithesis of novelty.
So you're complaining about both ends... That is ironic.

As for keeping the old tropes in new material
Using the same tropes without novel approaches has a couple names: reprint, rework, retroclone, plagiarism...
That last is less general, but often applies.

I think this is unfair. Being traditionalist is not wanting things to change.

@doctorbadwolf is saying that not everything has to be changed all the time. Some leaning into tropes is a good thing. For the many good reasons given earlier - recognition for instance.

I hope you can see there is a halfway point between those two viewpoints.

I am as tired by the tyranny of novelty as I am by those who see all change in TRRPGs as the work of Asmodeus. Nu-TSR for instance.

Not liking one viewpoint doesn’t automatically shunt me into the other camp. There is no irony that I can see there. I wasn’t cracking a joke, I was genuinely asking for elaboration. Though I guess mine is a dry wit.

 

[Umbran]

I hope you can see there is a halfway point between those two viewpoints.

I am as tired by the tyranny of novelty...

If you want to find midpoints and compromise, starting with the word "tyranny" is perhaps not a very good choice of framing.

 

[TheSword]

If you want to find midpoints and compromise, starting with the word "tyranny" is perhaps not a very good choice of framing.

It was the word in the title chosen presumably because of the negative reaction to things not original, but fair enough.

I would happily replace with hegemony of novelty.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

If you want to find midpoints and compromise, starting with the word "tyranny" is perhaps not a very good choice of framing.

There’s been plenty of reasonable discussion in the thread.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

It was the word in the title chosen presumably because of the negative reaction to things not original, but fair enough.

I would happily replace with hegemony of novelty.

And the idea is to play off the discussions about the supposed “tyranny of fun”, because it’s a similar phenomenon.

 

[Ovinomancer]

It was the word in the title chosen presumably because of the negative reaction to things not original, but fair enough.

I would happily replace with hegemony of novelty.

Is this that dry wit?

 

[Aldarc]

It was the word in the title chosen presumably because of the negative reaction to things not original, but fair enough.

I would happily replace with hegemony of novelty.

Can one really speak of either a "tyranny of novelty" or "hegemony of novelty" when D&D 5e is both (a) the largest game in the TTRPG market by a country mile, and (b) 5e was designed to be more conservative/nostalgic in its design (e.g., "rulings not rules," etc.)? Or do people actually fear the slightest murmur of novelty that much?

 

[TheSword]

Can one really speak of either a "tyranny of novelty" or "hegemony of novelty" when D&D 5e is both (a) the largest game in the TTRPG market by a country mile, and (b) 5e was designed to be more conservative/nostalgic in its design (e.g., "rulings not rules," etc.)? Or do people actually fear the slightest murmur of novelty that much?

I don’t think WOC is any more free from the pressure to be continually novel than smaller companies. If anything more so, because everyone has an opinion on WOC. I’ll repeat the list… carnival, library, ice world, Hellscape.

 

[TheSword]

Is this that dry wit?

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