D&D 5E Don't play "stupid" characters. It is ableist.

[abirdcall]

I don't see why it would be okay fictionally. There's no good reason to use "foreigner" as a substitute for "stupid". And even if I get why you made the comparison, it's still REALLY offensive. I've studied english for almost a decade, been fluent in it for another decade, but I'm still extremelly insecure about my English, both when writing and when speaking it, because on numerous ocasions I've been treated as stupid because of either my latino accent or typos (or using portuguese grammar rules when writing in English).

It's not.

 

[abirdcall]

Thank you! That's the point I was trying to make. PLaying a foreigner should never even be in the same conversation as playing a stupid character. But it is, because a lot of people equate foreigner with stupid. By bringing "foreigner" to this conversation, even if the OP doesn't believe it, reinforces the harmfull steryotype.

Or it explores it and demonstrates why it is wrong.

 

[Azzy]

I don't see why it would be okay fictionally. There's no good reason to use "foreigner" as a substitute for "stupid". And even if I get why you made the comparison, it's still REALLY offensive. I've studied english for almost a decade, been fluent in it for another decade, but I'm still extremelly insecure about my English, both when writing and when speaking it, because on numerous ocasions I've been treated as stupid because of either my latino accent or typos (or using portuguese grammar rules when writing in English).

Dude, you write English better than most native speakers. Don't be insecure there.

 

[Charlaquin]

I'd say it is part, but a big part is also not.

Mental acuity, analytical skill, ability to reason, logic, deductive reasoning, and investigation all seem like significant aspects that are not memorizing facts. Also education is arguably more about issues other than specific memorized facts (critical analysis being a big one).

Yes, deductive reasoning is the other aspect, which I did mention. I would argue critical thinking and analytical skill follow under the same umbrella.

 

[Bolares]

Dude, you write English better than most native speakers. Don't be insecure there.

That's not how being insecure works...

But thank you!

 

[Bolares]

Or it explores it and demonstrates why it is wrong.

It could... if argued better.

 

[abirdcall]

It could... if argued better.

I didn't assume I needed to make a thorough argument for why foreigners aren't stupid.

I just assumed people would accept it.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I don't see why it would be okay fictionally. There's no good reason to use "foreigner" as a substitute for "stupid". And even if I get why you made the comparison, it's still REALLY offensive. I've studied english for almost a decade, been fluent in it for another decade, but I'm still extremelly insecure about my English, both when writing and when speaking it, because on numerous ocasions I've been treated as stupid because of either my latino accent or typos (or using portuguese grammar rules when writing in English).

Growing up in a area that is more than half native Spanish speakers, and working a job where I have had to learn broken Spanish to do my job, I’ve seen both sides of this, and you’re absolutely spot on.

 

[Bolares]

I didn't assume I needed to make a thorough argument for why foreigners aren't stupid.

I just assumed people would accept it.

I know. I'm not trying to put you in the spolight, and either call you a bigot. But what I'm saying is yes, if you are going to use foreigner as an example you need to make a thorough argument. Because (as I'm trying to tell you from my personal experience) a lot of people do think foreigner = stupid.

 

[BRayne]

Yep, explicitly. And I’ve only ever seen it used as gender inclusive. Nearly all discussion I’ve seen of the new She-Ra, for instance, talks about Adora being a himbo.

Herbo is fairly common in my experience and I think it was coined for that reason, that is recent Adora being a woman who fulfills the himbo archetype.