D&D 5E How to pronounce Artificer

How do you pronounce ARTIFICER?



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Kobold Stew

Last Guy in the Airlock
Supporter
In my dialect it's like the word "artifice" with an "r" at the end. Websters suggests "är-ˈti-fə-sər" which matches what I think it should be. ARR-ti-fi-sir is probably the closest in your list

No -- the little tick before "ti" means that's where the stress is -- it makes it the second on my list (which I believe is the correct one!). But it's also one I have yet to hear anyone other than myself say.
 

Kobold Stew

Last Guy in the Airlock
Supporter
Agreed. If you used the word artifice with some level of frequency, I think it would be hard to land on anything else.

Except that's not how English tends to work.

artifice (AR-ti-fiss) has the accent on the antepenult -- the third last syllable.
artificer can't comfortably keep the accent there, because it then becomes the fourth-last-sylable (the ante-antepenult), and so the accent shifts forward the antepenult again (ar-TIFF-i-sir/ar-TIFF-a-sir). Or so I believe.
 

pukunui

Legend
Except that's not how English tends to work.

artifice (AR-ti-fiss) has the accent on the antepenult -- the third last syllable.
artificer can't comfortably keep the accent there, because it then becomes the fourth-last-sylable (the ante-antepenult), and so the accent shifts forward the antepenult again (ar-TIFF-i-sir/ar-TIFF-a-sir). Or so I believe.
Putting the emphasis on the first syllable of artificer is more comfortable to me (as a native American English speaker) than the second syllable.
 

Except that's not how English tends to work.
English works?
artifice (AR-ti-fiss) has the accent on the antepenult -- the third last syllable.
artificer can't comfortably keep the accent there, because it then becomes the fourth-last-sylable (the ante-antepenult), and so the accent shifts forward the antepenult again (ar-TIFF-i-sir/ar-TIFF-a-sir). Or so I believe.
That is my second choice, as I can sorta hear it. However, I say 'artifice artificer the artificer artifice,' I don't think I'm significantly changing the way the first three syllables sound by adding an '-er' to the end.
 



doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Except that's not how English tends to work.

artifice (AR-ti-fiss) has the accent on the antepenult -- the third last syllable.
artificer can't comfortably keep the accent there, because it then becomes the fourth-last-sylable (the ante-antepenult), and so the accent shifts forward the antepenult again (ar-TIFF-i-sir/ar-TIFF-a-sir). Or so I believe.
Except there is nothing odd at all about ART-if-is-er.
 

DEFCON 1

Legend
Supporter
For me, emphasis on the second syllable... ar-TIFF-i-cer. The same way the emphasis is on the second syllable in 'pho-TOG-gra-fir' (photographer) 'or 'gee-ALL-o-gist' (geologist).

Most four syllable words of this sort-- occupations or the people who perform those occupations-- always seem to put the rising emphasis on the second syllable:

Biographer
Geometry
Psychology
Optometrist
Etcetera

If it's three syllables then it falls on the first (CHEM-istry, DENT-istry) and five syllables falls on the first & third (OPH-thal-MOL-o-gist, AR-chae-OL-o-gy).
 

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