M.A.R. Barker, author of Tekumel, also author of Neo-Nazi book?

[Parmandur]

"C. S. Lewis wrote some Christian treatises, sure, but maybe he became a transcendtal Buddhist towards the end of his life. Who can say?"

 

[Morrus]

Couldn't be arsed to google search.


Are Nazi's aresholes, sure.
I cannot find Holocaust denying journal thing to check....link?

I asked you to leave the thread. You didn't. So now you'll be leaving the site for a few days. These things are not requests.

 

[Jer]

The whole 'this is just wokeness being unfair' diatribe we keep hearing kinda falls flat when we're talking about Nazi sympathizing. Isn't this the one thing we're all in agreement is genuinely terrible. Didn't we fight a war over it? I think pretty much the whole world was involved.

It should be. One of the more disappointing things in recent years is how much it isn't.

 

[Blue Orange]

It should be. One of the more disappointing things in recent years is how much it isn't.

I always figured most of it was the last WW2 veterans (and in some cases Holocaust survivors) gradually dying off. There are still a few left, but I'd bet 10 years ago a lot of the edgy kids dressing up as Nazis would have gotten beat up by their granddad. ("You dressed up as that? Look kid, I was in the war, and you know what I saw, you stupid little whippersnapper?") After a while any event enters the history books--lifespans are finite.

This is all IMHO, but the 2008 financial crash discredited laissez-faire capitalism and libertarianism, the Iraq War discredited neoconservatism, and with the decline of religion Christian conservatism looks less appealing. So if you're right-leaning (or displeased with the left) you have fewer models to choose from. I mean, more people being drawn to left-wing ideologies is another result of that, but there's some people who just aren't a very good fit for the left (and I admit I may be one of them). Some fraction of them are going to become fascists.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

writing an entire book as a prank seems a bit... much?

Not at all, for the sort of person described.

The two thugs fit seemlessly together, and do nothing to make me less inclined to think highly of the man. I’ve little respect for “ironic” nazi rhetoric, and about as little respect for people who enjoy exploiting “weaknesses in a persons personality”.

 

[Willie the Duck]

The two thugs fit seemlessly together

This seems a fortuitous typo.

 

[Tonguez]

If anyone wants to bother the book is available on audiobooks, I listned to the first chapter it features a few historic south Asian and Arabic quotes and a paramilitary unit talking smack about ethnics (referencing the Chinese War, third world India and a middle eastern war in 2038 (forget the name used)), nothing overtly Nazi yet…

 

[Blue Orange]

"C. S. Lewis wrote some Christian treatises, sure, but maybe he became a transcendtal Buddhist towards the end of his life. Who can say?"

It's not really the same thing, though. C.S. Lewis was known for his Christian writings and that was basically his entire public image; nobody knew about this until 10 years after Barker died.

This is like someone finding records of C.S. Lewis having secretly belonged to NAMBLA 20 years ago or something. There are possibly fringe interpretations that make it compatible with Christianity, but it's not the common thing and the vast, vast majority of Christians would find the idea horrifying. Did he stick with it? Did he join the journal and they just never took him off? (I know from my work with predatory journals it can be hard to get your name off their masthead.) Who knows?

 

[Some Dude]

It's not really the same thing, though. C.S. Lewis was known for his Christian writings and that was basically his entire public image; nobody knew about this until 10 years after Barker died.

This is like someone finding records of C.S. Lewis having secretly belonged to NAMBLA 20 years ago or something. There are possibly fringe interpretations that make it compatible with Christianity, but it's not the common thing and the vast, vast majority of Christians would find the idea horrifying. Did he stick with it? Did he join the journal and they just never took him off? (I know from my work with predatory journals it can be hard to get your name off their masthead.) Who knows?

According to Chirine, former archivist for the Tekumel Foundation, some members were aware of Barker's views well before he died. I can see no reason to doubt his account.

 

[Parmandur]

It's not really the same thing, though. C.S. Lewis was known for his Christian writings and that was basically his entire public image; nobody knew about this until 10 years after Barker died.

This is like someone finding records of C.S. Lewis having secretly belonged to NAMBLA 20 years ago or something. There are possibly fringe interpretations that make it compatible with Christianity, but it's not the common thing and the vast, vast majority of Christians would find the idea horrifying. Did he stick with it? Did he join the journal and they just never took him off? (I know from my work with predatory journals it can be hard to get your name off their masthead.) Who knows?

Yeah, it seems he was smart wnough to keep it on the downlow, but people knew...