Thomas Shey
Legend
I agree with this. But there is a point where the terms crossover so much, and the bleed-togetherness is so fluid, that the label becomes more of a hinderance than a help. Perhaps this is one of those times?
Its more that the term agreement is not strong here, which is always a problem outside of formalized settings. There's not much help for that, but with terminology at least some of the participants are talking about the same things. Without it, you have to go back to first causes on everything every time, and even hobbyists rarely have the energy for that.