DTRPG Says 'Don't criticize us or we'll ban you'

[doctorbadwolf]

As someone who buys Lamentation products: because not everyone is into boycotting art just because the artist is a flawed jerk?

Using your logic, Spotify would be 10% is current size, haha.

Feel free to break down what “logic” you think I’m proposing that leads to people not listening to music because the artist sucks.

Meanwhile, “giving oxygen to” does not mean “consuming media made by”. For that, I’d have said something that actually indicates that.

 

[Jahydin]

Meanwhile, “giving oxygen to” does not mean “consuming media made by”. For that, I’d have said something that actually indicates that.

Oh, I guess I misunderstood, haha?

So consuming media of bad people okay, just don't talk about them around you?

 

[Myrdin Potter]

It is not that “xxx” does not like it. If they don’t like it, no one can. For reasons. And xxx will keep talking about it and point attention towards what they don’t like. Which is most of the point why a few people try that silly marketing style.

 

[DrunkonDuty]

This is an exaggeration right? I don't recall him ever being a racist...

That video is the first time I ever heard of the guy.

And since he seems to be motivated to defend a neo-nazi troll I feel free to mock him accordingly. He wants to avoid being associated with neo-nazis he should be more judicious about whom he leaps to defend.

Now if I wanted to be really petty and needlessly personal I would have said something about a misshapen potato with a greasy mullet. But I didn't. I took the high road.

Side bar: so, DTRPG's policy is basically a response to actions carried out by someone who actually calls himself Venger Satanis. I mean, like, in public. Even at the age of 12 I would have considered that name too embarrassing to use for anything except a comedy villain sidekick. But this numpty uses it in the real world...

 

[Jd Smith1]

The question being asked is about supposed “alt right leanings” etc. The question is - where do you draw the line on not carrying vs. not buying.

I ignore the political leanings of people whose sole purpose in life is to entertain me, be they actors, directors, artists, musicians, or RPG material creators.

I'll never meet any of them, nor do I want to meet them.

A good example for me is Zweihander/Flames of Freedom. The prime author of that material is not a person I respect.

But the game system is excellent, and I run it how I feel it should be run, throwing out or ignoring anything I do not like. I know that the three pdfs I've purchased will not materially affect his net worth.

So I really don't see a need for a line.

 

[Myrdin Potter]

That video is the first time I ever heard of the guy.

And since he seems to be motivated to defend a neo-nazi troll I feel free to mock him accordingly. He wants to avoid being associated with neo-nazis he should be more judicious about whom he leaps to defend.

Now if I wanted to be really petty and needlessly personal I would have said something about a misshapen potato with a greasy mullet. But I didn't. I took the high road.

Side bar: so, DTRPG's policy is basically a response to actions carried out by someone who actually calls himself Venger Satanis. I mean, like, in public. Even at the age of 12 I would have considered that name too embarrassing to use for anything except a comedy villain sidekick. But this numpty uses it in the real world...

You don’t know who Raggi is, but you immediately call him a Neo-Nazi troll. Because he was defending himself, so you know he is a Neo-Nazi troll.

I don’t think he even mentioned the “hostile marketing” policy. His video was on the need permission in advance to state personal views in public policy.

Raggi has been publishing, hit and miss, a wide variety of new voices in RPG writing and when a lot of official modules were pablum he had a much more adult product out there. Not all the products hit the mark, but a lot of his writers have been quite good.

You also went right to body shaming. Always a great way to prove a point.

Now, I agree with you that the name of the other person you took a swipe at (Vengir) seems pretty juvenile to me, but my taste is not everyones’.

Based on Venger’s marketing posts over the years, I am sure he likes the extra attention. I can assure you they he is not the first or only one playing the “we got censored” game. To say the new hostile marketing policy is all due to him I am sure makes him quite pleased with himself.

 

[Myrdin Potter]

I ignore the political leanings of people whose sole purpose in life is to entertain me, be they actors, directors, artists, musicians, or RPG material creators.

I'll never meet any of them, nor do I want to meet them.

A good example for me is Zweihander/Flames of Freedom. The prime author of that material is not a person I respect.

But the game system is excellent, and I run it how I feel it should be run, throwing out or ignoring anything I do not like. I know that the three pdfs I've purchased will not materially affect his net worth.

So I really don't see a need for a line.

I think you certainly do have a line. I know of very, very few people that would want to open an RPG work and be confronted with something like child pornography.

My personal views on politics and art/entertainment I enjoy are also pretty broad and there are lots of writers that I probably would not like but I enjoy their books quite a bit.

I think that the hostile marketing policy from OBS is pretty much common sense - don’t insult us and cause a fuss just because we need to look at your work.

The policy on conduct is pretty badly written but the spirit is obvious. If you want to be extreme in your views in public and draw negative attention to yourself so the risk that it spill over to us is there, then don’t be surprised if we kick you off our platform.

My actions as a buyer just effect me. The people that run larger selling sites have a different task in front of them.

 

[Gradine]

Did Daniel Fox get up to something? I hadn't heard anything...

 

[Crusadius]

Did Daniel Fox get up to something? I hadn't heard anything...

I am only aware of his over-the-top promotion of his games that has put many people offside.

 

[Crusadius]

His video was on the need permission in advance to state personal views in public policy.

I personally have never worried about having to ask permission before stating personal views about public policy. Because I figure my views aren't abhorrent enough to get booted from forums such as this if I stated them.

For example if I talked about support for women to choose to get an abortion, or voting rights, or support for black lives matters and I ended up being banned from the platform I was on at the time? That's on the platform, not me, and I'm better not being there.

So when someone frets about such things enough to create a video? You have to wonder... what do they really want to say (or publish).