Basic D&D Was Selling 600,000+/Year At One Point

Recently Ben Riggs shared some sales figures of AD&D 1st Edition. Now he has shared figures for Basic D&D from 1979-1995, and during the early 80s is was selling 500-700K copies per year. Ben Riggs' book, Slaying the Dragon, which is a history of TSR-era D&D, comes out soon, and you can pre-order your copy now. https://read.macmillan.com/lp/slaying-the-dragon/ You can compare these...

Recently Ben Riggs shared some sales figures of AD&D 1st Edition. Now he has shared figures for Basic D&D from 1979-1995, and during the early 80s is was selling 500-700K copies per year.

Ben Riggs' book, Slaying the Dragon, which is a history of TSR-era D&D, comes out soon, and you can pre-order your copy now.


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You can compare these figures to those of AD&D 1E in the same period. Basic D&D sold higher than AD&D's PHB and DMG combined for 4 years running, again in the early 80s.

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If you take a look at the overall sales from 1979-1995, here are the two beside each other (again, this is just PHB and DMG, so it doesn't include the Monster Manual, Unearthed Arcana, etc.)

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More actual D&D sales numbers!

Below you will find the sales numbers of Basic D&D, and then two charts comparing those to the sales of AD&D 1st edition. For those who don’t know, early in its life, the tree of D&D was split in half. On the one side there was D&D, an RPG designed to bring beginners into the game. It was simpler, and didn’t try to have rules for everything.
On the other side there was Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, Gary Gygax’s attempt to throw a net around the world and then shove it into rulebooks. The game was so detailed that it provided rules on how Armor Class changed depending on what hand your PC held their shield in. (It may also have been an attempt to cut D&D co-creator Dave Arneson out of royalties…)

I am frankly shocked at how well Basic D&D sold. Having discovered AD&D 2nd edition in the 90s, I thought of “Dungeons & Dragons” as a sort of baby game of mashed peas and steamed potatoes. It was for people not ready for the full meal that was AD&D. (I have since learned how wrong I was to dismiss the beauty of what Holmes, Moldvay, Mentzer, Cook, et al created for us in those wondrous BECMI boxed sets…)

I figured that Basic D&D was just a series of intro products, but over its lifetime, it actually outsold AD&D 1st edition. (Partly because 1st edition was replaced by 2nd edition in 1989. I’ll start rolling out the 2nd ed numbers tomorrow FYI.) These numbers would explain why in a 1980 Dragon article Gygax spoke of AD&D not being “abandoned.”
Still, between 1980 and 1984, Basic outsold AD&D. The strong numbers for Basic D&D prompt a few questions. Where was the strength of the brand? Were these two lines of products in competition with each other? Was one “real” D&D? And why did TSR stop supporting Basic D&D in the 90s?

The only one of those questions I will hazard is the last one. A source told me that because TSR CEO Lorraine Williams did not want to generate royalties for Gary Gygax or Dave Arneson, Basic D&D was left to wither on the vine.

I will also say this: TSR will die in 1997 of a thousand cuts, but the one underlying all of them was a failure of the company to grow its customer base. TSR wanted its D&D players to migrate over to AD&D, but what if they didn’t? What if they wanted to keep playing D&D, and TSR simply stopped making the product they wanted to buy? What if TSR walked away from what may have been hundreds of thousands of customers because of a sort of personal vendetta?

Tomorrow, I’ll post numbers for 2nd edition AD&D, and comparisons for it with Basic and 1st edition.

And if you don’t know, I have a book of D&D history coming out in a couple weeks. If you find me interesting, you can preorder in the first comment below!

Also, I'll post raw sales numbers below for the interested.
 

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overgeeked

B/X Known World
The surprising part to me is that Basic fell off of a cliff in 1984. I knew that happened to AD&D, but I thought Basic was carrying TSR. Now I see that this was a real year of crisis.

Did Mentzer BECMI kill Basic...?
Looks like Holmes’ Basic set didn’t sell well initially, but B/X and BE did. It’s the CMI releases starting in 1984 where sales drop off a cliff.
 

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Zardnaar

Legend
Looks like Holmes’ Basic set didn’t sell well initially, but B/X and BE did. It’s the CMI releases starting in 1984 where sales drop off a cliff.

It's been known for a long time red box sold a metric boat load and CMI didn't do that well.

And 81-83 was the peak followed by 84 crash.

There's nothing new here except when those sales happened and why they went with 2E.

You don't campare sales of 2E vs lifetime sales of 1E as it was more popular in that regard.

Salers of 2E just needed to beat 1E in 1990 vs 88 or so.

3.0 was another front loaded edition sales wise it's why they did 3.5 so fast.
 

Rabbitbait

Adventurer
I bought it in 1980, then the AD&D monster manual maybe a year later, then the AD&D players handbook maybe a year later and then the AD&D DMs guide. Bit ripped off that you needed the DMs guide for the Armour Class table.
 

Is the Y axis $$ or Units?

Also, not including Monster Manual is a huge miss and I would expect would increase AD&D sales by significant amount. I would expect MM to sell equal or more than DMG tbh. So to say Basic was outselling AD&D without including MM feels incorrect, or perhaps seeing what one wants to see.

Big cliff in mid-80's. That's when I stopped playing. Didn't realize I was such an influencer :LOL:
I wondered the same. If you listed the books in order of numbers it would be PHB, MM, DMG among the groups I played with. MM outnumbered the DMG. I had 2 MM ('77) before the PHB even came out ('78). Ended up with a couple of them and finally the DMG in '79. We started with original D&D in '74 and moved on the AD&D (1E). Never played Basic / Expert although I bought / read them. That may make us a bit atypical I suppose.
 


Zardnaar

Legend
So…that’s not good for credibility.

Don't take it as gospel.

What he is saying is nothing new though it's been known about for years if one has been paying attention.

Pre 5E red box was biggest selling D&D ever and that chart shows 1991 peaking as well which would be the Black Box.

He's not claiming anything revolutionary.

Since they haven't released concrete numbers Basic added togather could still be the biggest selling ever idk.
 



Parmandur

Book-Friend
Ryan Dancy steps into the Facebook thread and said something interesting.

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That seems to be very strong evidence thst the Satanic Panic, contrsry to the usual dismissive depiction by many fans as a "great marketing" bit for D&D, was actually a body shot that TSR never recovered from. (@Snarf Zagyg and @Zardnaar have trotted that out lately, for example). This explains a lot about TSR's strategy shifts after 1984, and BADD getting D&D out of mainstream outlets.

Compare this to now, when WalMart, Target and Amazon carry the products with no problem. If JC Penny, Toys R Us, or Sears were still going concerns today, I'm sure they would, too.
 

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