D&D (2024) Dungeons and Dragons future? Ray Winninger gives a nod to Mike Shea's proposed changes.

[GMforPowergamers]

I presume it's because of what appears to be your assumption that no current players of D&D are going to buy the new books?

1st I didn't say none, I gave no estimate... second I give up fine

Unless that is not what you are saying, in which case I have misunderstood what you are trying to get across.

 

[overgeeked]

It has literally never, ever come up. Also, that's not a houserule, the PHB notes that it using Multiclassing is a variant, not a standard rule.

LOL. No one in any of your games has every multiclassed? You're lucky.

That it's not a house rule is the point. Every player so completely assumes that multiclassing is standard that I had to exclude it as a house rule. That speaks to the other poster's point. If it's in the PHB it's standard. That's how players treat things in the PHB, even when they're called out as "optional."

 

[Parmandur]

here is the thing... 3 new core books will cost WotC money to make, and they will (fairly) expect it to make Core Book money backk for the investment. IF they are not planing on selling it to the current players (or at least most current players) they must be hopeing the number of new players if brings in will be on par or over the amount of current players not buying it.

I am sure many current players will buy...but the core audience for a 2024 is people born in the Teens.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

The thing about cash cows is they bring in short term profit but alienate the customer base and harm long term profits. The difference between Hasbro and TSR and (indy)WotC is they look to LONG TERM profits, not just surviving into the next quarter.

okay you win... I admit I was wrong

 

[Parmandur]

There have been innovations brought into the CoC rules over time, in relatively small steps. If WotC gets into that mode with D&D, I could be reasonably content.
Plus books do wear out eventually if you tote them around from game session to game session. My PH is doing fine, but my Monster Manual has a substantial section that has broken out of its binding. I'll have no difficulty justifying buying a new one in 2024 as long as its compatible with the rest of my 5e kit.

Tbisnis precisely what they are signaling is the path moving forwards.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

What data do you have to suggest that new art isn't a motivating factor for most customers...?

none, your right. I was being silly

 

[bedir than]

Such as, dropping the jargon of "race", and using "species" instead.

This never happened.

 

[Parmandur]

yes and no... WotC totally changed it... but basic 1e and 2e have as much in common as any 2 editions of Call of Cthulhu...

Well, and there's the ticket: WotC has said the 3.x and 4E huge sweeping change approach was a mistake, that they don't want to repeat. They've said that over and over since 2014.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I am sure many current players will buy...but the core audience for a 2024 is people born in the Teens.

okay. I will assume going forward wotc does not need or want our money.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Well, and there's the ticket: WotC has said the 3.x and 4E huge sweeping change approach was a mistake, that they don't want to repeat. They've said that over and over since 2014.

okay... I get it I was wrong.