D&D (2024) Dungeons and Dragons future? Ray Winninger gives a nod to Mike Shea's proposed changes.

[Maxperson]

Level 1-3, 4% of Pcs have Feats. 20% of characters are Humans, but thst might have been from a different breakdown. So, soory, one out of five Humans at lowevel are Variants.

I've never understood that. To me that extra feat and skill proficiency are worth more than +1s in stats that are pretty much all secondary.

 

[Maxperson]

Not at all. They are optional. 4 years is a long time, and they hadn’t even announced anything about the updated 5e PHB.

Do you think that they didn't know that 5.5 was going to be announced and those rules would be used?

 

[Maxperson]

I played in a game of Werewolf, some 20 or so people. A professional actor joined us. Been in movies and tv and voice work etc.

He took on a Russian persona with a perfect accent. So much so friends of mine noted they didn’t know he was Russian. He isn’t.

At one point in the game he had to drop the act for a moment to assure another player that he wasn’t actually upset at being called out as a werewolf.

He was just plain amazing.

He was also just playing Werewolf and trying to “win”.

Was it fake? No.

I played D&D for 15 years(1992-2007) with a bunch of voice actors, actors, stunt men, etc. Not that everyone in the group was, but a lot of them were. It was a lot of fun for everyone.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Do you think that they didn't know that 5.5 was going to be announced and those rules would be used?

3 things.

First, I think the question is irrelevant to the underlying question, which is, “where they being disingenuous when they made these features optional?”

Second, there won’t be a 5.5e. Just a cleaned up core set for 5e.

Third, setting aside terminology, stuff like Deft Explorer will still likely be optional, and may not even move to the PHB, since they seem to still want the major expansion books to remain useful after 2024. That the race design will eventually fully replace the 2014 design does not mean that all or even most of the optional rules will do so.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Sure, if that’s how you want to frame it. For better or worse it worked, and the game is more popular then ever because of it.

The only thing 5e's popularity has done for me is make it last long enough for someone else to make a better version of the game (Level Up). No small thing, I admit.

Thanks WotC!

 

[Micah Sweet]

Yes?

I do. So do most of the people I know who play like CR do.

Or, you are having trouble accepting that other people play differently from your experienced norm.

Their experience and Paramandur's carry equal weight. Just because one matches a popular movement doesn't make it more valid.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Their experience and Paramandur's carry equal weight. Just because one matches a popular movement doesn't make it more valid.

Please show me a specific quote wherein anyone said otherwise.

 

[Maxperson]

3 things.

First, I think the question is irrelevant to the underlying question, which is, “where they being disingenuous when they made these features optional?”

Second, there won’t be a 5.5e. Just a cleaned up core set for 5e.

Third, setting aside terminology, stuff like Deft Explorer will still likely be optional, and may not even move to the PHB, since they seem to still want the major expansion books to remain useful after 2024. That the race design will eventually fully replace the 2014 design does not mean that all or even most of the optional rules will do so.

Yeah. I'm speaking only of the race changes which this thread revealed will be in the core. I wasn't talking about the entire book.

Whether you think of it as 5.5 or 5e revised(cleaned up), it's still going to be a significant change. People call it 5.5, so I'm just going along with what appears to be the overwhelming majority.

 

[Argyle King]

4E Officially Announced: August 2007
Rules Compendium Released: October 2007.
What "sorta"?

When would that mean the Rules Compendium was announced?

Also, thanks for highlighting "officially announced." That's part of my point.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Yeah. I'm speaking only of the race changes which this thread revealed will be in the core. I wasn't talking about the entire book.

Right, and it is just as optional as the rest, and when it eventually becomes the new core standard, that won’t change that it was optional from release until a book is put out wherein the core races are built in the new way.

Whether you think of it as 5.5 or 5e revised(cleaned up), it's still going to be a significant change. People call it 5.5, so I'm just going along with what appears to be the overwhelming majority.

Is it?