D&D (2024) First playtest thread! One D&D Character Origins.

[Scribe]

Mostly, except for ASIs coming from race in MMotM and from background in 1D&D.

I mean, do they? Maybe in the most technical of ways, but race doesn't influence ASI anymore (right?) so while it may happen at that step, it's not tied to race as it should be.

 

[Charlaquin]

I mean, do they? Maybe in the most technical of ways, but race doesn't influence ASI anymore (right?) so while it may happen at that step, it's not tied to race as it should be.

I’m not 100% sure if I’m parsing this correctly, but what I think you’re saying is a fair point.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

It sounds like they're specifically deprecating the old backgrounds. Otherwise, the aforementioned disclaimer (about how you can't get both racial ability bonuses and background ability bonuses) makes no sense.

this doesn’t follow. The sidebar clarifies that you have to choose which source to take your ASI from if playing a new origin writeup. That’s it. You can literally play a PHB Hill Dwarf with new style custom background, in a game wherein Tasha’s options are live, no adjustments needed. The PC playing the older race just has to choose whether to keep their OG ASIs, or choose them freely instead.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I think they mean the DM side can still use adventures but players have to upgrade as a whole table or stay back in old PHB.

They definitely don’t mean that. They explicitly say you can use supplements from throughout 5e with the new options.

 

[Cadence]

RE: @HammerMan 's "players have to upgrade as a whole table or stay back in old PHB."

They definitely don’t mean that. They explicitly say you can use supplements from throughout 5e with the new options.

But WotC explicitly mentions modules and supplements, but not the core books, right?

 

[SakanaSensei]

RE: "players have to upgrade as a whole table or stay back in old PHB."



But WotC explicitly mentions modules and supplements, but not the core books.

I know WotC isn’t going to consider this, but I am curious to see how certain things like subclasses get adjusted because there is a wide array of 3PP creatives like Mage Hand Press and MCDM making cool stuff for the game as it is. I’m more than willing to get under the hood and make adjustments, but I know a lot of people aren’t and said creatives might have a lot of work ahead of them either remaking old products or letting them be relegated to history.

 

[Micah Sweet]

They definitely don’t mean that. They explicitly say you can use supplements from throughout 5e with the new options.

So no significant changes to classes then? I know people have been chomping at the bit to adjust subclass features for all classes to level 1. That would disrupt literally every 5e supplement.

 

[Parmandur]

So no significant changes to classes then? I know people have been chomping at the bit to adjust subclass features for all classes to level 1. That would disrupt literally every 5e supplement.

Sidebar: "if you use a Subclass from an older book, put Level X Class features into Level Y."

 

[Charlaquin]

So no significant changes to classes then? I know people have been chomping at the bit to adjust subclass features for all classes to level 1. That would disrupt literally every 5e supplement.

I’m not sure it would have to, actually. Take the rogue. They currently get their subclass at 3rd level. If 1D&D rogues get their subclass at 1st level, and thereafter gain subclass features at all the same levels 2014 rogues do, then structurally all the 2014 rogue subclasses would still essentially work for 1D&D rogues. They would only be missing a 1st level subclass feature. Just throw in a catch-all like “if your subclass doesn’t grant a feature at 1st level, you can take a 1st level Feat instead” or something. I dunno, just spitballing.

 

[Parmandur]

I’m not sure it would have to, actually. Take the rogue. They currently get their subclass at 3rd level. If 1D&D rogues get their subclass at 1st level, and thereafter gain subclass features at all the same levels 2014 rogues do, then structurally all the 2014 rogue subclasses still would still essentially work for 1D&D rogues. They would only be missing a 1st level subclass feature. Just throw in a catch-all like “if your subclass doesn’t grant a feature at 1st level, you can take a 1st level Feat instead” or something. I dunno, just spitballing.

If they shift around the Level when stuff happens...they can explain jownto shift older options that fit the existing framework.

Some Classes (looking st you, Ranger) may need...more.