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Jamison Stone & Satine Phoenix's Apotheosis Studio To Wind Down [UPDATED]

After being accused of abusive behaviour towards freelancers and co-workers, the game company run by D&D influencer Satine Phoenix and her husband Jamison Stone, is to enter a 'reduced capacity' mode. After the accusations were made, Jamison Stone resigned as CEO; after a couple of weeks he was added back to the company's staff page, saying that he was never actually removed but merely...

After being accused of abusive behaviour towards freelancers and co-workers, the game company run by D&D influencer Satine Phoenix and her husband Jamison Stone, is to enter a 'reduced capacity' mode.

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After the accusations were made, Jamison Stone resigned as CEO; after a couple of weeks he was added back to the company's staff page, saying that he was never actually removed but merely taking personal time while Apotheosis Studio conducted an investigation.

In a draft of a recent statement obtained by Dicebreaker, Stone indicated that the results of this investigations were that the 'vast majority' of the accusations made were 'factually inaccurate'. He went on to discuss the ramifications of 'cancel culture', although the statement was updated to rephrase that as 'extreme changes'. Other than the initial apology to tattooist Chad Rowe, Stone has indicated that no further apologies will be forthcoming.

“The rest of the team now has completed those investigations and found that while some individuals had legitimate complaints, the vast majority of the allegations to date levelled against Jameson and others on our team have been proven to be factually inaccurate. We believe that people should be shown compassion, given the opportunity to write their wrongs and grow as individuals.”


As for the company itself, it will finish fulfilling existing Kickstarter projects. It will not be accepting requests to cancel and refund pledges for existing funded Kickstarters, and noted that most of the freelancers and contributors have been paid. When asked about the company's future, Stone said "As it stands - and I don’t know what the future will hold - it’s just a company that is there. It just exists and sells books. Some of my books, some books by other people. It will sell The Red Opera and eventually sirens. All of the people who are there are just contracted at this point."

A statement is expected to come soon from Apotheosis.

UPDATE -- Apotheosis Studio's statement has arrived:


Thank you for your patience. We have had a lot of questions about the future of Apotheosis Studios, its team, and our projects. While Jamison Stone did step down as CEO to take personal time while Apotheosis Studios did an internal investigation on the allegations brought forth by numerous individuals, we in no way claimed that we were removing Jamison from the company. Having completed our internal investigation, we have found that while some individuals had legitimate complaints, the vast majority of the allegations to date levied against Jamison and others on our team have been proven to be inaccurate. Jamison will directly address major allegations and misinformation within the month.

We at Apotheosis Studios do not support abuse in any form. We believe in accountability and the ability for everyone to reflect, learn from their mistakes, grow, and be given the opportunity to show what they’ve learned by actively being better through action. We encourage everyone to stand up for themselves in compassionate ways with the hope to make things better so no one has to live in fear. It is in this honesty that we can learn from one another and each be better for ourselves, our families, and our communities while not furthering abuse, bullying, harassment, and other dehumanizing behaviors.

Sirens: Battle of the Bards will be delayed while those who are still working on the project deal with the ramifications of the extreme changes that we have had to make due to this situation. We will be sending out merchandise that we already have in hand for US backers first. Sirens: Battle of the Bards is 90% finished and its contractors have been paid, therefore refunds will not be issued. We will provide additional updates on fulfillment as we know more.

Because there seems to have been some confusion regarding the nature of our operations, we wish to state again that payments to writers started in March 2022 and as new invoices were received, we processed them promptly. All artists and contractors who have completed their work and were authorized for billing have been paid. The only remaining work is rewrites, editing, and layout. This, as stated above, will take longer than originally planned.

For reference: we had the following number of contractors working on this project:
  • Writers - 22 writers. Paid 10 cents per word
  • Artists - 4. Paid monthly or per image
  • Graphic Designer - 1. Paid monthly
  • Layout artist - Paid monthly, even when not working on a project
  • Musicians - 2. Paid promptly per song
  • Sculptor - 1. Paid promptly per sculpt
The Sirens writing Deadline was Oct 31. Approval passes started in November. Unfortunately, the approval passes took longer than expected which pushed out approval for the contractors to bill by 3-4 months. Billing authorization was issued in March of 2022 and we promptly paid all invoices properly submitted to our accountant.

For this project, we provided templates for Adventure Chapters with an 8,450 words max budget. 9 of 22 chapters were over word count
  • 4 over by 1000 words
  • 1 over by 3700 words
  • 2 over by 4750 words
  • 1 over by 7000 words
Despite the fact that many chapters were over the word counts outlined the writers were paid for the overages after appropriate approval. Writers whose writing was not used were still authorized to bill us and were paid 10 cents per word.

For those of you who have reached out with constructive feedback, we greatly appreciate your support and patience. We will have further updates as more information becomes available.

Sarah Urfer
 

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Got that update myself and I was aghast at how tone deaf it was. Talking about how much re-writing they have to do when that was one of their excuses for shorting their freelancers has a very "Let them eat cake" vibe to it.

Not to mention taking a project that was due in late 2021 and pushing delivery until 2024. Backers are not having it, understandably, and the comments are filled with a whole lot of this:

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Also the distance from "Jamison Stone is stepping down as CEO" to "Jamison is still running the company" to "Jamison is one-half the remaining production team" was very short.
Not surprised it was tone deaf. Both Jamison and Phoenix seem to have little self-awareness. But yeah everyone has a right to be furious. They obviously fraudulently claimed this product was much further along then it ever has been, and done so at multiple points. A product that was supposed to be released in late 2021 should have had all the writing and editing done.
 

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They do have the power to prohibit future projects by delinquent creators. Of course, such creators can always find ways around it, but let's be honest: Kickstarter doesn't care so long as they get their cut.

Banks do have the power to reverse funds if they want to. And that would be notable if it were an organized attempt by enough backers en masse. Not likely to work, but it also isn't unheard of to accomplish.
Most banks only do transaction reversals within a couple months. This is far beyond the timeframe any bank could/would act.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
They do have the power to prohibit future projects by delinquent creators. Of course, such creators can always find ways around it, but let's be honest: Kickstarter doesn't care so long as they get their cut.

Banks do have the power to reverse funds if they want to. And that would be notable if it were an organized attempt by enough backers en masse. Not likely to work, but it also isn't unheard of to accomplish.
Nothing you just said contradicts what I said. I don’t know if was supposed to.

(Banks don’t just randomly reverse transactions because they want to, either, and would have no basis to in this case. The TOS are clear.)

I get the desire for powerful external agencies to step in and wave a magic wand to make things right, but they can’t do that. And we don’t want those institutions to have that sort of power.
 

Emrico

Adventurer
This kind of bs is why I waited a LONG time to back any Kickstarter and still will only back one that is done by a company that has a proven record of fulfillment on prior kickstarters.

If it gets to the point where the bad acting grifters/scammers are allowed to keep ripping people off then KS will either go under or the government(s) will step in and regulate them with consumer protections.
 

Honestly I would be pretty surprised if we see anything from this Kickstarter. Jamison and Phoenix don’t have much to lose at this point by just keeping whatever funds have not already been spent. It is difficult to imagine anyone backing a future KS of theirs or another company hiring them in this industry at least for the foreseeable future.
 


Sacrosanct

Legend
Every time I read about KS being delayed and the creators being duplicitous, it burns my hide a little. Then I get comments like this from a few days ago on my own KS and I'm glad I can build trust with my own customers. I hate to see people burned and turned off by KS, because for us publishers, it's a great tool.

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vecna00

Speculation Specialist Wizard
Wouldn't be surprised that spending money not on a funded project has been their day job for a while now.


Even the worst of the funded-but-failed KS campaigns pale in comparison to the really epic KS failures like Skarp razor ($4m) or Ouya game console ($8.6m), etc.
I mean, at least I still have an Ouya! :)
 

aramis erak

Legend
Kickstarter doesn’t do that. That’s not a precedent they’d want to set. Also, they don’t have any power to force a refund.
Technically, they do have the power, at least before releasing funds; what they lack is the authority (neither by contract nor by law) and willingness.
 

They do have the power to prohibit future projects by delinquent creators. Of course, such creators can always find ways around it, but let's be honest: Kickstarter doesn't care so long as they get their cut.

Banks do have the power to reverse funds if they want to. And that would be notable if it were an organized attempt by enough backers en masse. Not likely to work, but it also isn't unheard of to accomplish.
Kickstarter would fight tooth and nail to AVOID having that sort of power. Because power brings responsibility, and if kickstarter CAN force refunds or blackball creators then on day one they're going to be deluged by a million takedown/refund requests - many of which are valid, many of which will just be vendetta-driven or lowlifes trying to game the system for some sort of political reason, and many of which will be ambiguous or disputed. And kickstarter will have to adjudicate, and investigate, and evaluate evidence etc for every single one of those cases, and that sort of thing is time-consuming and expensive and nobody ends up happy, and kickstarter probably has no legal power to force refunds over international borders anyway. What are they going to do, sue delinquent creators in court in the creator's native country?

It's basically the facebook/google 'publisher vs platform' argument in miniature.
 
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