D&D General Dave Arneson’s Pitch for the future of TSR and D&D in ‘97 to Peter Adkison

Following his 1997 application for a job at WotC, D&D co-creator Dave Arneson wrote a second letter to WoTC founder Peter Adkison and made a pitch about how he'd run TSR and D&D. https://www.enworld.org/threads/when-d-d-co-creator-dave-arneson-asked-wotc-for-a-job.691090/ Despite his excitement his plans seem underwhelming. My heart already bleeds for Arneson. The man has never received...

Following his 1997 application for a job at WotC, D&D co-creator Dave Arneson wrote a second letter to WoTC founder Peter Adkison and made a pitch about how he'd run TSR and D&D.

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Despite his excitement his plans seem underwhelming.

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My heart already bleeds for Arneson. The man has never received his due as D&D’s co-creator. He never made CEO. He wasn’t on Futurama. TSR and Gary Gygax did him dirty. (This has been explored in my prior post and in Game Wizards by Jon Peterson.)

This letter is Arneson’s moment. If he wants to make D&D for a living again, he has to put points on the board, and he has to do it with this letter. Now. But he hasn’t even bothered to check his punctuation!

Six pages of his research and plans follow. Here’s a summary, but I’m pasting the letter below if you want to thrill to every misspelled word.

In the main, Arneson’s thoughts are nothing you wouldn’t have heard hanging around a game store in the spring of 1997. He said that all of TSR’s projects were “dead in the water,” which the whole world knew as the company hadn’t published anything for months.


See Ben Riggs article for the full letter and more of his observations.

 

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Dausuul

Legend
I think it's less about being no angel and a lot more about being naive about the kinds of relationships a CEO can have with their employees without it being problematic. Fortunately, he apparently got the education he needed.
Exactly. He got the education and he learned from it.

Nobody's an angel, and nobody said Adkison was a model CEO--he clearly was far from it! But he built a thriving company that he sold to Hasbro of his own free will, rather than having it wrenched from his hands on the point of collapse.
 

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Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
The Facebook comment thread is interesting, in light of someone on another thread saying we've never really had Arneson's Blackmoor. Based on the Facebook screenshot, it sounds like the Zeitgeist/Goodman version is Arneson's Blackmoor and it was just ... OK.

That said, I can't help but feel sorry for him. Even if he didn't belong on the team, it has to have quite understandably chafed at him his whole life to be overshadowed the way he was.
 

Jaeger

That someone better
I think it's less about being no angel and a lot more about being naive about the kinds of relationships a CEO can have with their employees without it being problematic. Fortunately, he apparently got the education he needed.
Exactly. He got the education and he learned from it.

By all means, please link to the relevant quotes where he Apologizes, and then repudiates his previous statement:

"I still don't think what we did was wrong. But society does, unfortunately."
 

Honestly, this entire thread is, at best, not great for Arneson or Adkison. At worst, Arneson sounds clueless and delusional and Adkison sounds like someone who doesn’t understand why it’s completely inappropriate for someone in a position of power to put their employees in that sort of situation. I’m amazed that sexual assault and/or sexual harassment claims didn’t happen during that time.
 

Jaeger

That someone better
That said, I can't help but feel sorry for him. Even if he didn't belong on the team, it has to have quite understandably chafed at him his whole life to be overshadowed the way he was.

There is some sympathy to be had for him. As my impression is only superficial due to knowing about him only through books and documentaries:

He had the lightning in a bottle idea, but seemed to lack the wherewithal to communicate it beyond his group of friends. It seems that Gygax was the needed translator to bring his creation to a wider audience. What is really sad is as Rob Kuntz pointed out on other threads; like Gygax he got six figure royalty checks for B/X for many years in the early 80's. It seems he was unable to hold onto his wealth as well.

Both he and Gygax should have at least lived comfortably later in life...
 


Alzrius

The EN World kitten
There is some sympathy to be had for him. As my impression is only superficial due to knowing about him only through books and documentaries:

He had the lightning in a bottle idea, but seemed to lack the wherewithal to communicate it beyond his group of friends. It seems that Gygax was the needed translator to bring his creation to a wider audience. What is really sad is as Rob Kuntz pointed out on other threads; like Gygax he got six figure royalty checks for B/X for many years in the early 80's. It seems he was unable to hold onto his wealth as well.

Both he and Gygax should have at least lived comfortably later in life...
I'm currently reading Flint Dille's autobiography The Gamesmaster: Almost Famous in the Geek '80s. He and Gary became friends in 1982, right when Gary was setting up shop in southern California to try and turn TSR properties into multimedia franchises. While I'm not done with the book yet, Dille does a good job painting a picture of what was, by all accounts, the most wild and profligate chapter of Gary's career, with fascinating vignette after fascinating vignette.

There's also a few interesting bits of obscure D&D lore in there as well. For instance, the very first tale of Gord the Rogue was published in Dragon #100, "At Moonset Blackcat Comes." In the story, Gord has a barbarian friend named Chert, who's noted for his 6'6" frame and unruly hair. In point of fact, "chert" is (geologically speaking) a grade of flint, and Flint Dille is 6'5" and self-admittedly hated combing his hair.

Little things like that which would otherwise be lost to history are absolute catnip to D&D aficionados like me, and I recommend the book to anyone who enjoys such tidbits.
 
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Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
What is really sad is as Rob Kuntz pointed out on other threads; like Gygax he got six figure royalty checks for B/X for many years in the early 80's. It seems he was unable to hold onto his wealth as well.

Both he and Gygax should have at least lived comfortably later in life...
My brother is a fancy finance guy, with a fancy finance education and career. His advice, whenever there's a big windfall, is to run, not walk, to a lawyer to set up a trust that will pay you a good wage on an annual basis, after some one-time spending first. Very few people can be trusted with sudden wealth, as has been illustrated by too many lottery winners.
 

Dausuul

Legend
By all means, please link to the relevant quotes where he Apologizes, and then repudiates his previous statement:

"I still don't think what we did was wrong. But society does, unfortunately."
What he learned was, you can't run a company like that. And so he stopped running it like that.

If somebody quits doing a bad and destructive thing, they have learned--even if they learned at sword's point, so to speak, and the lesson was "You will get beat down if you do this, so don't." I'll take a guy who changes his ways without changing his beliefs, over a guy who changes his beliefs but not his ways.
 

Jaeger

That someone better
What he learned was, you can't run a company like that. And so he stopped running it like that.

If somebody quits doing a bad and destructive thing, they have learned--even if they learned at sword's point, so to speak, and the lesson was "You will get beat down if you do this, so don't." I'll take a guy who changes his ways without changing his beliefs, over a guy who changes his beliefs but not his ways.

So that's a solid No then on any link to relevant quotes where he Apologizes, and then repudiates his previous statement: "I still don't think what we did was wrong. But society does, unfortunately."

Got it.
 

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