D&D (2024) Does anyone else think that 1D&D will create a significant divide in the community?

[billd91]

I don't think we are gonna exactly get a Protestant/Catholic schism here.

But what if it's a Rome/Avignon schism?!?

 

[Olrox17]

It really is different. Updates to the base game are generally free in video games, and hard to avoid, so everyone is basically on the same page. DLC is extra, but is more like an rpg supplement in that it's there if you want, but you have to opt in.

Sure, but 5e is almost 10 years old. How many games are continually freely updated and patched for 10 years straight? There are some, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Eventually, you want to churn out a full sequel and start making money all over again.

I think (and I may be way off I have not been young since the T rex went extinct) that we still sell the TTRPG as 'not video games'. I doubt either (although I don't really know them and only have seen 1 of the 2 of them before in passing) would be suprised at the new madien or assassins creed game coming out, but the idea that D&D could change so soon seemed to shock them.

in my own group we are all 3e or older players so I am not sure at all... my niece and nephew both stared playing around end of 4e along with 'no thankkyou evil' so they already know of the edition wheel spinning

Could be. I'm just surprised to hear that younger gamers aren't completely used to nowadays' crappy commercial practices yet.

 

[payn]

Sure, but 5e is almost 10 years old. How many games are continually freely updated and patched for 10 years straight? There are some, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Eventually, you want to churn out a full sequel and start making money all over again.

MMOs.

 

[Aldarc]

Defining D&D is like that of porn, you know it if you see.

Obviously. They print the name "D&D" or "Dungeons and Dragons" on the cover.

Sure, but 5e is almost 10 years old. How many games are continually freely updated and patched for 10 years straight? There are some, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Eventually, you want to churn out a full sequel and start making money all over again.

Diablo 2 was released in 2000. Its latest patch was 2016. But then it got a re-release as Diablo 2: Resurrected in 2021.

Diablo 3 was released in 2012. Still being patched in 2022.

Starcraft 1 and Brood War were released in 1998. Its latest update was patch 1.23.10, which was in September 2022.

Guild Wars 1 (2005) had three patches this year.

It's a lot more common than you think, especially as many PC games involve online co-op play.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

MMOs.

Sure, but they have other ways to monetise your play experience.

 

[Aldarc]

Sure, but they have other ways to monetise your play experience.

The goal post has now been moved.

 

[Cadence]

If WotC does what they say they intend to do, this whole conversation will seem ridiculous in a few years. When you can walk into a store, grab an updated PHB when you feel like it, go home and still use it with your Rime of the Frostmaiden campaign you've been planning to run, and it works fine, folks will be like "eh." I'm sure you will get the occasional grognard insisting that only the 2014 PHB is real D&D, but most conversations will be something like: Player: "Are we using the updated Bardic inspiration rules?" DM: "Sure." I don't think we are gonna exactly get a Protestant/Catholic schism here.

If they're using the books, how will the player and DM even know they are using different ones or think to ask? If they're using the online ones will the new player ever think of not using the new one and will the DM ever try to keep up?

Anyway, my question is about how they would get sold on Amazon and ebay. Will they all note the printing?
And then I went and checked out the first one on ebay...

Maybe I'm just skeptical of how textbooks work, where even the international versions of the same edition have the homework problems in different orders and the like. Actual different editions are painful for trying to get students the right sections and problems.

 

[tetrasodium]

It really is different. Updates to the base game are generally free in video games, and hard to avoid, so everyone is basically on the same page. DLC is extra, but is more like an rpg supplement in that it's there if you want, but you have to opt in.

Spoiler: You sure about that?

5e was built around the idea that the simplicity of streamlined crossplay is the only important goal. 6e seems to be fixing some of the more egregious results of that from what we've seen so far.

 

[Bill Zebub]

Lake Onebegone. Where all the halflings are weak, all the orcs are evil, and all the ability scores are below average.

 

[Olrox17]

MMOs.

Yes, I mentioned that there are some exceptions to the rule, thank you for providing an example.

Diablo 2 was released in 2000. Its latest patch was 2016. But then it got a re-release as Diablo 2: Resurrected in 2021.

Diablo 3 was released in 2012. Still being patched in 2022.

Starcraft 1 and Brood War were released in 1998. Its latest update was patch 1.23.10, which was in September 2022.

Guild Wars 1 (2005) had three patches this year.

It's a lot more common than you think, especially as many PC games involve online co-op play.

I’m sure we can easily provide a few more examples if we put our minds to it. Then, we’ll have to look at the literal hundreds of examples of the opposite.
Besides, how many Diablo games did we get since 2000? Come now.