D&D (2024) What do you want to see from the bastion system?

[AnotherGuy]

It was once. Maybe it could be again.

On the Loss of D&D's Endgame

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Yeah. 5e certainly feels like a different beast - than 1e, 2e and BECMI.
I find your proposal so daunting without a major reworking of the entire current system. I leave it to more creative types.

 

[Xamnam]

It was once. Maybe it could be again.

On the Loss of D&D's Endgame

You'll find lots of gamers who will sing the praises of the Basic Rules published in the early 80s (either 1981's Moldvay version or 1983's ...

grognardia.blogspot.com

I get the appeal, but this exactly why I want this system to not come with those extensions. Land and follower management is very disconnected from what I find interesting about having a home base, and doesn't feel intrinsic to why I play the core game. It's why Strongholds and Followers ended up being more valuable to me as inspiration than as actual mechanics.

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

That turns out to lead to a dimension of vampires that are afraid of humans, absolutely!

Does the base come with a mysterious back door to another dimension?

 

[James Gasik]

That turns out to lead to a dimension of vampires that are afraid of humans, absolutely!

Don't forget the werewolves!

 

[Tonguez]

Upgradable bases where the upgrades give bonuses to stats/skills or feats. Eg if I upgrade a base with an archery range gain +2 bonus to range attacks kinda thing, or add a Hospital to my Temple and get bonus healing.

Also fun NPC interactions

I mean obviously the base will have a number of rooms equal to your proficiency bonus, each of which will support a number of followers equal to your proficiency bonus of a level equal to your proficiency bonus.

proficiency + cha at least

 

[Xamnam]

That turns out to lead to a dimension of vampires that are afraid of humans, absolutely!

Oh man, been a while since I've thought about that series.

 

[James Gasik]

Oh man, been a while since I've thought about that series.

I recently ordered all the books on Amazon, since there's quite a few I missed over the years, so it's pretty fresh in mind.

 

[payn]

I'd love to see something that focuses on the action coming home to roost on the PCs. Infiltration, mass combat, social impact, etc..

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

The series is so much fun. I started reading them not long before I played my first game of D&D.

Don't forget the werewolves!

Oh man, been a while since I've thought about that series.

You make a point that beyond just being a cool place to hang out, the base system needs to be actionable and help create adventure hooks.

I'd love to see something that focuses on the action coming home to roost on the PCs. Infiltration, mass combat, social impact, etc..

 

[Clint_L]

I don't think the "Bastion" system, skeletal as it is, is very important to most campaigns. Very few use it. It is still interesting to me, though, as it is a throwback to D&D's origins in wargaming. Originally, D&D was supposed to tie into larger wargaming campaigns, and an explicit goal was to build up your stronghold and followers.

That stated, if I was going to an actual Bastions campaign, I would use Warhammer rules for it.