D&D (2024) New leak looks real bad

[overgeeked]

What was the gap between the first discussion of the early leaks and having actual documentation to look at for most people? A few days? A few weeks?

 

[Mecheon]

While this is a bad thing, can I just, have a slight cackle at the way this has gone if apparently seeing the leaked slides and going “but what if it was real?”

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Ahh guess the expansion buffed it up to first again.

It's an extremely good expansion, after one that didn't end up being good, between COVID and all of their HR/lawsuit issues. It's entirely possible WoW was below FF during Shadowlands, which was a long slog.

 

[Haplo781]

If the $30 got you all this, would you think it could be worth it?

1) Monthly Dungeon and Dragon Magazine, digitally. Not that thing they were using as a marketing tool with just a few legit articles, but the real old fashion things. Except they all integrate into your DNDBeyond Account and the VTT.

2) All your players gain access to all the stuff you've bought on DNDBeyond for their DNDBeyond accounts and on the VTT, provided your players have a $5/month account.

You got that in 4e for like 8 bucks.

 

[Mercurius]

no they are not, and this is not how this works anyway. You would go for maximum profit, not maximum number of sales, and price accordingly.

As to your numbers, I have no idea where you get the 50M players from. DDB has 13M registered users, no idea how many play D&D, from what I hear about double that. No idea how many of those are active, no idea how many of those pay for any subscription level now. I’d wager it is no more than 3-4M though.

If 2% of 4M go for the highest tier, you are at 80k. Your 100k already feels like the maximum possible for that tier


well, I am


15-20M, at the rate things are going

You can certain if you want, but I am not.

As for 50M, it made press a year and a half ago, so it should be well over that by now. But for example:

"2020 Was The Best Year Ever for Dungeons & Dragons - Again!" - Games Press

Press releases and assets from across the games industry - screenshots, videos, logos, packshots, artwork, PR contacts, release dates

www.gamespress.com

 

[ersatzphil]

Who published this new "all fake" image? GeekNative?

The Reddit account that posted the image of the slide, u/professorsecrets.

 

[darjr]

Who published this new "all fake" image? GeekNative?

Yea. someone posted that link.

D&D Beyond deny price rise and leaked slides

Squinting at the fuzzy photograph, you can see that the price of D&D Beyond, bought by WotC for nearly $150m in April, would rise to $30 a month.

www.geeknative.com

Also here is the user account on reddit. I could have sworn there was a thread on ENWorld too but I can't find it.

Reddit - The heart of the internet

www.reddit.com

Note I have no idea about the latest leaks.

 

[Mistwell]

You got that in 4e for like 8 bucks.

You really, truly did not. That was trash ads dressed up as magazines. I am talking the real Dragon and Dungeon magazines.

 

[Haplo781]

Also apparently confirmed by Noah Downs and Ginny Di. Big exposé coming on Wednesday.

 

[kenada]

I was trying to figure out who the audience is for the $30/mo tier: it’s those who pay for roll20, have a D&D Beyond subscription, and also support a few Patreons. It would only take a couple $5/mo Patreons to get close to $30/mo. I don’t think it’s a good value for me, but I can see how it might be for those GMs who already pay a lot per month for various D&D-adjacent things.