Crow Eating thread

[doctorbadwolf]

Yeah, I’ll be very surprised if they turn around and make 1D&D incompatible with 5e. There are a lot of reasons that would be a terrible move right now. I guess WotC has a bit prone to making terrible moves lately, but I strongly suspect that’s been mostly on the part of the corporate folks, not the design folks.

Yeah, I think you’re right.

They just gave up completely on their whole thing, as well. They aren’t likely to just 180 on that for OneDnD. Some folks on twitter are insisting that the execs are gonna demand some kind of “punishment” of the fans after all this, and I’m just…I’ve no words lol

 

[Matt Thomason]

Yeah, I think you’re right.

They just gave up completely on their whole thing, as well. They aren’t likely to just 180 on that for OneDnD. Some folks on twitter are insisting that the execs are gonna demand some kind of “punishment” of the fans after all this, and I’m just…I’ve no words lol

Yeah, anything they do in the short term would only make the whole situation worse.

That does not mean we can trust them never to 180 in the long term. Especially if they reach a point where they're happy their player base is using OneDnD and no longer cares about the previous material. Plus we have literally no idea who will be in charge in the future and try to do something that makes the past few weeks look like a sensible business idea, or if they will ever sell D&D to a third party that tries to lock it all down.

That said, it's entirely possible to make OneDnD "compatible" with 5e while still changing a lot of the mechanics. As long as the stat blocks look the same, it's "compatible", even if all the combat system mechanics are changed. That wouldn't upset people wanting to bring printed adventures and stat blocks over, while it would still impact VTTs.

 

[Dausuul]

I will gladly bet one person $50 right now, that you will be able to use Tasha's subclasses with OneDND classes without any house rules or homebrew needed, and the license will be similar to the OGL 1.2 proposal minus deauthorization at worst.

Not sure I'd go quite that far. From the playtest, they appear to be standardizing subclasses so you get features at the same level across all classes, which would make them incompatible with Tasha's.

There will likely be some sort of conversion rule to let you shoehorn 5E subclasses in, so it will be technically true that you can play them without house rules or homebrew. But I don't think it will work very well.

As for the license, I agree 100% on that. They have absolutely nothing to gain by trying to do a GSL now. I would not be at all surprised to see them commit to making a 1D&D SRD in the next couple of weeks, to be released under the OGL 1.0a and maybe Creative Commons too. They are clearly in full damage control mode right now.

It's also possible they don't do any license at all and just let people use the 5E SRD. But I can't imagine them trying to do a GSL-type thing.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Not sure I'd go quite that far. From the playtest, they appear to be standardizing subclasses so you get features at the same level across all classes, which would make them incompatible with Tasha's.

Not at all. You just get your subclass features in order according to your class chart.

If you hit a subclass levels have no subclass features left, you take a feat.

Literally two lines of text in the class section.

There will likely be some sort of conversion rule to let you shoehorn 5E subclasses in, so it will be technically true that you can play them without house rules or homebrew. But I don't think it will work very well.

As is right now, any bard or rogue subclass works 100% with no issues with the playtest version of the class.

As for the license, I agree 100% on that. They have absolutely nothing to gain by trying to do a GSL now. I would not be at all surprised to see them commit to making a 1D&D SRD in the next couple of weeks, to be released under the OGL 1.0a and maybe Creative Commons too. They are clearly in full damage control mode right now.

Yep. They aren’t going to stop being a little jumpy and “we gotta do everything possible to get them back” for a while.

It's also possible they don't do any license at all and just let people use the 5E SRD. But I can't imagine them trying to do a GSL-type thing.

Yeah I think that putting the 5.2 SRD under OGL 1.0a is the most likely thing.

 

[Art Waring]

I didn't believe the first youtuber who revealed the leak, because at that time I trusted the 1.0a OGL to be ironclad (going on 20 years of past history), boy was I wrong.

Even after seeing the m30 disaster with mtg (and the reversal on the reserved list), I never thought they would try it with dnd. Unfortunately I was wrong.

 

[gamerprinter]

I hadn't been paying attention to Facebook, Youtube or ENWorld for the past couple weeks. Mom had a small stroke event, then she took a tumble and chipped her femur. So for the last month and a half, I've been putting in more hours of caregiving, all day long, then allowing myself 4 hours at the end of each day to work on publications. About 2 weeks ago, I noticed the stink about OGL 1.0a for the first time. I had been working on a supplement for Spelljammer, and had been planning to release it under the Community Content Agreement at the DM's Guild, since Spelljammer is WotC IP, in order to publish using D&D IP, I had to go through the DM's Guild. For a while I thought the OGL mess might mess up this project - apparently it does not. Now it doesn't seem I get as large a publisher cut in profits as I do when I create Starfinder material, so I'm a bit apprehensive about doing it, for less money. My only hope is that a D&D product might get better sales than my Starfinder material and a cut in pay, might not hurt so much... we'll see. I don't see that anything has changed from past and current projects, now that the fiasco has been walked back. I will be looking to using ORC in the future, but things seem to be continuing on as if nothing has happened...

 

[Ondath]

I hadn't been paying attention to Facebook, Youtube or ENWorld for the past couple weeks. Mom had a small stroke event, then she took a tumble and chipped her femur. So for the last month and a half, I've been putting in more hours of caregiving, all day long, then allowing myself 4 hours at the end of each day to work on publications. About 2 weeks ago, I noticed the stink about OGL 1.0a for the first time. I had been working on a supplement for Spelljammer, and had been planning to release it under the Community Content Agreement at the DM's Guild, since Spelljammer is WotC IP, in order to publish using D&D IP, I had to go through the DM's Guild. For a while I thought the OGL mess might this project - apparently it does not. Now it doesn't seem I get as larger a publisher cut in profits as I do when I create Starfinder material, so I'm a bit apprehensive about doing it, for less money. My only hope is that a D&D product might get better sales than my Starfinder material and a cut in pay, might not hurt so much... we'll see. I don't see that anything has changed from past and current projects, now that the fiasco has been walked back. I will be looking to using ORC in the future, but things seem to be continuing on as if nothing has happened...

I wish your mum a speedy recovery mate.