Kyle Brink (D&D Exec Producer) On OGL Controversy & One D&D (Summary)

The YouTube channel 3 Black Halflings spoke to WotC's Kyle Brink (executive producer, D&D) about the recent Open Game License events, amongst other things. It's an hour-plus long interview (which you can watch below) but here are some of the highlights of what Brink said. Note these are my paraphrases, so I encourage you to listen to the actual interview for full context if you have time.

OGL v1.1 Events
  • There was a concern that the OGL allowed Facebook to make a D&D Metaverse without WotC involvement.
  • Re. the OGL decisions, WotC had gotten themselves into a 'terrible place' and are grateful for the feedback that allowed them to see that.
  • The royalties in OGL v1.1 were there as a giant deterrent to mega corporations.
  • Kyle Brink is not familiar with what happened in the private meetings with certain publishers in December, although was aware that meetings were taking place.
  • When the OGL v1.1 document became public, WotC had already abandoned much of it.
  • The response from WotC coinciding with D&D Beyond subscription cancellations was a coincidence as it takes longer than that to modify a legal document.
  • The atmosphere in WotC during the delay before making an announcement after the OGL v1.1 went public was 'bad' -- fear of making it worse if they said anything. The feeling was that they should not talk, just deliver the new version.
  • Brink does not know who wrote the unpopular 'you won but we won too' announcement and saw it the same time we did. He was not happy with it.
  • 'Draft' contracts can have dates and boxes for signatures. Despite the leaked version going to some publishers, it was not final or published.
  • There were dissenting voices within WotC regarding the OGL v1.1, but once the company had agreed how to proceed, everybody did the best they could to deliver.
  • The dissenting voices were not given enough weight to effect change. Brinks' team is now involved in the process and can influence decisions.
  • The SRD release into Creative Commmons is a one-way door; there can be no takeback.
One D&D
  • The intention is that all of the new [One D&D] updates they are doing, "the SRD will be updated to remain compatible with all of that". This might be with updted rules or with bridging language like 'change the word race to species'.
  • Anything built with the current SRD will be 100% compatible with the new rules.
  • Brink does not think there is a plan to, and does not see the value, in creating a new OGL just for One D&D. When/if they put more stuff into the public space, they'd do it through Creative Commons.
  • WotC doesn't think of One D&D as a new edition. He feels it's more like what happened with 3.5. They think 5E is great, but coud be better and play faster and easier with more room for roleplay, so there is stuff they can do to improve it but not replace it.
Inclusivity
  • WotC is leaning on the community to discourage bad actors and hateful content, rather than counting on a legal document.
  • They are working on an adaptable content policy describing what they consider to be hateful content which will apply to WotC's work (no legal structure to apply it to anybody else).
  • They now have external inclusivity reviewers (as of last fall) who look over every word and report back. They are putting old content through the same process before reprints.
  • Previously cultural consultances were used for spot reviews on things they thought might be problematic, but not everything (e.g. Hadozee).
  • The problematic Hadozee content was written by a trusted senior person at WotC, and very few people saw it before publication.
  • 'DnDShorts' video on the internal workings and management culture of WotC is not something Brinks can talk on, but it is not reflective of his team. Each team has its own culture.
  • In the last couple of years the D&D team hiring process has made the team more inclusive.
  • When asked about non white-CIS-men in leadership positions at WotC, Brinks referred to some designers and authors. He said 'guys like me, we're leaving the workforce, to be blunt' and 'I'm not the face of the hobby any more'. It is important that the creators at WotC look like the players. 'Guys like me can't leave soon enough'.
Virtual Tabletops (VTTs)/Digital Gaming
  • Goal is to make more ways to play ('and' not 'instead') including a cool looking 3D space.
  • Digital gaming is not meant to replace books etc., but to be additive.
  • The strategy is to give players a choice, and WotC will go where the player interests lie.

 

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With all due respect, you don't know my state of mind.

But I will say that the people who chase others around the internet, demanding proof of racism are very often doing so in bad faith. If they don't want to Google it themselves -- this is hardly an under-discussed issue -- I'm not inclined to give anyone the benefit of the doubt at this point.
Who was chasing anyone around? I am just here.

Some examples were discussed and I think you will see that I engaged in good faith.
 





HectorsNemesis

Explorer
While I do personally find Gillespie rather obnoxious (according to a Barrowmaze reviewer, he makes his students buy copies of his game books to pass his college course! And he was mean to me on Facebook! :eek: ) I very much doubt anything by him & similar writers would ever trigger WoTC's Harmful Content overwatch.
Sounds like almost every professor I've had. ;-)
 

teitan

Legend
And the claims about the author are opinion that may not match with reality (I think they are hyperbole, but that is my opinion).

The work itself is just a fairly straightforward S&S ruleset. Nothing wrong with it.
He literally worked for Milo Yianopolis after he left Breitbart. He was the CEO of MILO Inc , Yianopolis’ company, and maintains interests in Milo Worldwide. So… they aren’t hyperbole. Whether you think Milo is just a provocateur or literally believes the stuff coming out of his mouth is neither here nor there, being part of it is still endorsing it when it’s doubled down on even after calling it provocation. And when Milo says he plays a supervillain but Macris is the actual supervillain…?
 


He literally worked for Milo Yianopolis after he left Breitbart. He was the CEO of MILO Inc , Yianopolis’ company, and maintains interests in Milo Worldwide. So… they aren’t hyperbole. Whether you think Milo is just a provocateur or literally believes the stuff coming out of his mouth is neither here nor there, being part of it is still endorsing it when it’s doubled down on even after calling it provocation. And when Milo says he plays a supervillain but Macris is the actual supervillain…?

I was not a U.S. citizen during the time Milo was active and even today I don’t pay attention to similar political media promoters, so I am fairly ignorant of that subject.

I bought AKCS from a bundle offering (not even knowing about anything more than the marketing text) and it seems to be a pretty standard D&D clone with a setting defined as more Conan like than Tolkien. Regardless of the hyperbole associated with one of the author / designers, I did not see anything political in the game. Funny enough, one of the other authors is a reasonably prominent WoTC employee (Greg Tito).
 

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