MCDM officially announces their RPG

[Retreater]

You need to look around more. Start with Zweihander: brutally tactical.

Well, Zweihander IS a retread, right?

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I think it depends heavily on what not D&D is defined as. The OSR and Pathfinder are D&D so I'm not so sure about that.

I absolutely count OSR and Pathfinder as D&D, along with Shadow of the Demon Lord and 13th Age.

I'm talking about things like Exalted, Dungeon World, Fellowship, many Fate and Savage Worlds games, Ironsworn, Barbarians of Lemuria, Conan: Through an Age Undreamed Of, Swords of the Serpentine, Earthdawn, Godbound, Tales of Xadia, The Dark Eye, Dragonbane, Symbaroum, GURPS Dungeon Fantasy and both modern non-5E Lord of the Rings RPGs. None of them individually is a mega-hit, but collectively? That's a decent size chunk of the non-D&D market. I don't think RuneQuest or Tunnels & Trolls ever had as much of a market share back in the day.

 

[Random Task]

Seems like it would be hard to tell if the fantasy RPG market is so big now that 20% of it is much bigger in absolute numbers than say, as an example, 30% of it was in say 1992 or 1993 with Rolemaster, MERP, Runequest, GURPS Fantasy, Fantasy Hero, Ars Magica, Warhammer, Harn, Talislanta, Earthdawn and whatever else I am forgetting.

 

[MNblockhead]

I really like MCDM products and am loving what I'm seeing with their Flee! Mortals! monster book. My general position is that I don't have much interest in fantasy role playing games other than D&D with various third-party enhancements and homebrew. But after watching this video, and with my prior experience as an MCDM customer, I'm definitely going to give this consideration when it is eventually released.

 

[Aldarc]

But Matt is shooting for tactical and epic play, something I have yet to see. Lots of those "new" games are retreads.

4e D&D, Lancer/Icon, Beacon, Gubat Banwa. They are definitely out there.

 

[Waller]

Not officially.

What does that even mean?

If I do something and say it's not official does that mean it didn't happen? Sounds like a recipe for the perfect crime!

"You stand accused of robbing Gotham City Bank!"

"I didn't rob it officially your honor."

"You're free to go!"

 

[Retreater]

I watched the video. I like Matt's enthusiasm. I hope the system doesn't use proprietary "weird dice" like I've heard rumored (but not "officially").
[Dice like Fantasy Flight's Edge of Empire feel better suited for a board game, IMO.]
The video encouraged me to flip through other "not D&D" rulebooks last night - Runequest and Soulbound. I think I should do a written retrospective of "not D&D" games I've played or read, just to document for myself.

 

[aramis erak]

Well, Zweihander IS a retread, right?

not exactly... it hybridizes WFRP 1E and WFRP 2E, being adaptable/convertible to/from either but not truly compatible with either. It's close enough to be familiar in feel to fans of either.

So while a setting trope retread, It compares to WFRP2 as Castles and Crusades does to D&D.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

not exactly... it hybridizes WFRP 1E and WFRP 2E, being adaptable/convertible to/from either but not truly compatible with either. It's close enough to be familiar in feel to fans of either.

So while a setting trope retread, It compares to WFRP2 as Castles and Crusades does to D&D.

I've never played Zweihander, but Castles & Crusades is wildly compatible with OD&D through 3E.

 

[deganawida]

I'm intrigued, if for no other reason than Matt's energy is just so danged contagious.