D&D 5E Is the stun from Psychic Scream permanent if it is impossible to make the save?

[Enrahim2]

Bless would allow you to get that d20 up to 4 higher....

Or even lower level - resistance. (Is there anything saying bless and resistance don't stack?)

 

[Shiroiken]

Maybe Greater Restoration? It doesn’t technically remove stunned, but it feels like an appropriate way to rule that such a perma-stun could be ended.

IIRC, the only direct spell would be Power Word: Heal, but I feel that Dispel Magic would be applicable as well.

 

[Mort]

IIRC, the only direct spell would be Power Word: Heal, but I feel that Dispel Magic would be applicable as well.

Except psychic scream is instantaneous and can't be dispelled. Basically the spell happened and that's that.

Essentially the stun is from mental trauma not continuing magic.

 

[DND_Reborn]

This is an example of why you should auto succeed at a saving throw on a 20.

I disagree, it is a perfect example of why you shouldn't IMO.

 

[Stalker0]

This is an example of why you should auto succeed at a saving throw on a 20.

Yes, we absolutely cannot allow a 9th level spell other than wish to be really cool, bring on the nerf bat!

 

[Clint_L]

Yes, we absolutely cannot allow a 9th level spell other than wish to be really cool, bring on the nerf bat!

It’s a broader issue than one spell. We house rule that nat 20s always save so that the player or target always has a chance. However slim. And because we like natural 20s (and natural 1s, which always fail) to be exciting.

 

[Stalker0]

IIRC, the only direct spell would be Power Word: Heal, but I feel that Dispel Magic would be applicable as well.

An interpretation of true polymorph can give you stun immunity. The interpretation assumes that an acquired immunity would end an condition already on you.

 

[FarBeyondC]

An interpretation of true polymorph can give you stun immunity. The interpretation assumes that an acquired immunity would end an condition already on you.

I wouldn't let changing forms end the condition, but definitely would let it be suppressed while in the form.

 

[Dausuul]

I wouldn't let changing forms end the condition, but definitely would let it be suppressed while in the form.

If you turn them into an eye of fear and flame, they get stun immunity and a +4 Intelligence save, so they can probably shake off the effect before turning back.

 

[Mort]

If you turn them into an eye of fear and flame, they get stun immunity and a +4 Intelligence save, so they can probably shake off the effect before turning back.

While the rules aren't clear on this, I would rule that immunity grants automatic success on the save (you're not even picking up the dice, result is not in doubt).

So, IMO, you shake off the effect when you become something immune - no roll required.